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  • It's a long shot, but I hope this petition pays off.

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    • Petitions are meaningless... Sunrise (and in this case RightStuf) aren't going to bat an eye at it. There is no financial gain to be made from this. It costs more work on the production end (script writer, ADR, recording studios, costs to the actors, script approval from Sunrise again, etc) Gundam is now too much of a niche market in order for them to spend the time and money. The only difference for Unicorn and the Origin is due to the fact that they're cash cows and have the latest in animation and quality staff attached. They won't bother going back and doing older series any more. I don't know why fans on this side have such a hard time accepting that dubs for Gundam are gone. It'll be sub only for these older series.  

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    • Deackychu wrote: Petitions are meaningless... Sunrise (and in this case RightStuf) aren't going to bat an eye at it. There is no financial gain to be made from this. It costs more work on the production end (script writer, ADR, recording studios, costs to the actors, script approval from Sunrise again, etc) Gundam is now too much of a niche market in order for them to spend the time and money. The only difference for Unicorn and the Origin is due to the fact that they're cash cows and have the latest in animation and quality staff attached. They won't bother going back and doing older series any more. I don't know why fans on this side have such a hard time accepting that dubs for Gundam are gone. It'll be sub only for these older series.  

      If you don't like it, don't comment. It's a lot to hope for, but I want to give it a try. Toei does it for Dragon Ball. Why shouldn't the Gundams be any different?

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    • Dragon Ball/Z is profitable.  It has a comparitively large fanbase to Gundam, to the point of nearly being mainstream.  It attracts a larger audience since it doesn't really try to be intelligent, it's a simple good vs. evil action series.  There's no little in the way of politics, morals or subtlety in the series.  DB/DBZ boils down to somebody wants to destroy/conquer the Earth, and the heroes fight them.  Gundam is much more in depth.  If factors in political situation, economics, and ethics and morality and hence it loses a lot of that audience.  In the end, it does come down to investment vs. return for the copyright holder, and with older series with no exposure, and a small audience, it's a large investment, with little to no return.  I've watched everything there is subbed and actually prefer it that way.  While early Gundam dubs did have good voice acting, I still think that the original Japanese conveys more emotion in it's tone and inflection, and choose to watch it with subtitles for that reason.

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    • But some people, such as myself, probably can't stand listening to a foreign language throughout the whole show, regardless of how promising the story is. Besides, I think there are some channels or so in the United States that air anime shows not for kids. If they are so desperate for money, then maybe they can make a Kickstarter or something to get some support from the fans. Besides, it's not only about the action. There's life lessons in Gundam as well.

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    • Gundam isn't about the action most of the time, I said Dragon Ball Z is.  If you think a kickstarter is a good idea, maybe try to get into contact with the copyright holders about it.  The problem is, you have to front the money to get the rights, distribution and do everything that Deackychu said, and that's a pretty substantial amount of money.  And with the return that the holders would see, your kickstarter would have to cover all of that. Petitions are only successful when they have tens of thousands, or millions of signatures or more, because they actually show a substantial desire or belief, a general consensus, not a minority or a niche.  This petition, even if it gets the 100 signatures, does not prove that.

      If you are really that passionate about it, and know others who are too, I think you should try to make some connections and make it happen.  Hit anime and comic conventions if you can, talk to voice actors or find people who would volunteer.  Make contact with somebody who has the power to make this happen and find out what you would have to do to make it happen and work on it.  Make them want to do it, show them that there is a solid reason they should do it and how it will benefit them.  Spread the word, and prove it is legitimate and you will have more success with a kickstarter.

      If you really want this to happen, then try to make it happen and work for it.  However, realize the reality of what that petition is asking for.  You are asking a company to spend tens, or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in resources and time, to dub several shows at the request of 100 people.  That's a terrible business decision, and a guaranteed loss.  There is no way the return will outweigh the risk.  You're essentially asking people to go to work without a paycheck.  However, if you prove to them there is a larger interest, and that it could be done at no financial cost to them, with a potential for financial benefit in the end, your odds go up dramatically.

      I'm not saying this to be a jerk.  I'm saying this because if you really want this, you need to be realistic, and realize what it would actually take to bring it to fruition.  Things don't happen because you want them to happen, they happen because you make them.

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    • Diseasicon wrote: Gundam isn't about the action most of the time, I said Dragon Ball Z is.  If you think a kickstarter is a good idea, maybe try to get into contact with the copyright holders about it.  The problem is, you have to front the money to get the rights, distribution and do everything that Deackychu said, and that's a pretty substantial amount of money.  And with the return that the holders would see, your kickstarter would have to cover all of that. Petitions are only successful when they have tens of thousands, or millions of signatures or more, because they actually show a substantial desire or belief, a general consensus, not a minority or a niche.  This petition, even if it gets the 100 signatures, does not prove that.

      If you are really that passionate about it, and know others who are too, I think you should try to make some connections and make it happen.  Hit anime and comic conventions if you can, talk to voice actors or find people who would volunteer.  Make contact with somebody who has the power to make this happen and find out what you would have to do to make it happen and work on it.  Make them want to do it, show them that there is a solid reason they should do it and how it will benefit them.  Spread the word, and prove it is legitimate and you will have more success with a kickstarter.

      If you really want this to happen, then try to make it happen and work for it.  However, realize the reality of what that petition is asking for.  You are asking a company to spend tens, or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in resources and time, to dub several shows at the request of 100 people.  That's a terrible business decision, and a guaranteed loss.  There is no way the return will outweigh the risk.  You're essentially asking people to go to work without a paycheck.  However, if you prove to them there is a larger interest, and that it could be done at no financial cost to them, with a potential for financial benefit in the end, your odds go up dramatically.

      I'm not saying this to be a jerk.  I'm saying this because if you really want this, you need to be realistic, and realize what it would actually take to bring it to fruition.  Things don't happen because you want them to happen, they happen because you make them.

      I was thinking the Sunrise people do the Kickstarter if I convince them. I share it online, but I only went to one Comic Con in Dallas back in the summer and it wasn't exactly easy for me with lines, disorganized comics, and so many people. I know what you're saying, but I'd probably have to get out more or something.

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    • It's not that I don't like it, it's just that it won't happen. The titles that are being released here which the US has been waiting for is coming over as a strictly subbed release for a reason: their sales cannot justify production costs of including a dub. That's why they're coming as split series (look at Turn A and the re-release of Mobile Suit Gundam)... Both companies are looking at profit. With the already high licensing costs for titles, the more corners that can be cut the better. 

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    • I understand, but a man's got to follow his passions, you know. Anyway, I did give a form to the Miami anime convention center about it, only time will tell if they share it or not.

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    • Might have to think of an alternative to the immediate anime convention, though.

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    • Well last week, Zeta (which already has a dub), ZZ, GBF and X were said to be getting official North American releases (the latter three will be subbed) and Iron Blooded Orphans will be getting a dub sometime in 2016.

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    • We already know about their stories through their subbed voices. It's not very progressive keeping them the way they are.

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    • It's not about what's progressive or not. It's about profit margins, and subbed releases are much cheaper. Frankly, it's almost a miracle that we're getting official releases of these shows at all, and IMO it IS a miracle that IBO is apparently getting dubbed - Banrise pulled the plug on the North American market for the most part years ago.

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    • I suppose. But I think the world outside of Japan has as much right watch the full Gundam history in their own native languages as much as the Japanese themselves do.

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    • So far I've got 9. I know it doesn't breed confidence, but I think it can last as long as it can.

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    • Eleven for some time, but I think knowing the official Sunrise email would help.

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    • I was able to get an email for bandai.

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    • I pretty much moved on from the petition stuff since none of it was going anywhere. However, since I saw that Nozomi Entertainment made a Kickstarter for one of their shows and stated that they were dubbing AGE, I'm thinking a crowd fund would be more applicable, so I sent a message on Kickstarter for them to ask if they could help bring the vast majority of Gundam to English audiences by such a tactic.

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    • They told me that want to get their current Kickstarter project on Blu-ray right now, but also that anything is possible, which sounds like a sign to me. Someday we'll see it all. I'm sure of it.

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