Talk: Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin

Delete

Ok why do you have to delete this when the MOVIE is confirmed 2 days ago? As in you think it never existed.--LazyOrange (talk) 11:38, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

To start with a lot of your info is either speculative/down right incorrect.

The Start & End dates for the manga were completely incorrect.

The Movie as you call it was originally announced in 2011 -(& people believed it was going to be a full reboot like a new anime series), then another announcement happened in 2013 - (& people thought it was going to be an OVA somewhat in the lines of Unicorn), now we have an announcement that it will be in the form of 4 movies (In what form??? - theatrical movie release/Direct to DVD/Blu Ray/ on PlayStation store).

Then in the article you have the Principality of Zeon. If the series is starting from the beginning then it would be like this. Rep. of Munzo --> Rep. of Zeon --> Principality of Zeon.

Then the Characters, even with little to know knowledge of The First Gundam Series you you have only listed two, when there are at least 9/10 I can see. In combination with that you have listed the two characters using their Aliases.

Then the biggest problem with having you creating this page, is that you will re open the debate on Alternate pages for MS/MA [[1]] which was basically shelved till now.

Now don't get me wrong i have no problem with THE ORIGIN, all i want to do is wait till we have any kind of concrete info, so we don't give people the wrong information.Denbo786 (talk) 12:19, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Ahhh....but then deleting it? It's a bit too much don't you think?--LazyOrange (talk) 13:12, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

I thought it was going to be 4 movies (or episodes), isn't the proper title for the first one "Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Blue-Eyed Casval" ?  Fort Max says 'til All Are One and Deculture! (Talk) 14:38, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yes It is. That's the subtitle for the first movie itself.--LazyOrange (talk) 13:30, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Then surely we should rename the page? This current article title implies it is a movie, right now we don't know if The Origin wll be a theatrical OVA (like Unicorn or Code Geass: Akito the Exiled) or a movie series. If it's a movie series, then it isn't single one thus the article title is a complete misnomer. Such a thing has never been done before, there have been single movies like Char's Counterattack and Awakening of the Trailblazer so they each get their own article, but movie series like the MSG trilogy just compress the plot of the television series which is why the article Mobile Suit Gundam II: Soldiers of Sorrow doesn't exist. Fort Max says 'til All Are One and Deculture! (Talk) 14:38, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

If we want to delete a speculated unconfirmed movie, then delate that seed destiny movie page. As for gundam: the origin, they're going to make it. Pretty sure about it... Pronunciation (talk) 15:05, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

We should delete this article for two reasons.

1. We don't know if is a movie or OVA.
2. It has been confirmed that there will be at least 4 installments/episodes, so it isn't a single movie which means the article's title is incorrect. -- Fort Max says 'til All Are One and Deculture! (Talk) 15:18, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

With the exceptions of a few redirects i can't edit my solution is all but in place. This is what i purpose, We will do the exact same thing we did with Unicorn, We'll change the name of this page to Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin and the original will be kept at its current title Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin (Manga) that i changed earlier, and as the film/movie/OVA/ONA become available I will ask Simant to create a new infobox for them if it is needed if not we will treat them as individual episodes of the series. Denbo786 (talk) 18:24, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Invidividual episodes of OVAs still get invididual articles though, right? Fort Max says 'til All Are One and Deculture! (Talk) 20:01, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yes/No depends on how the author writes them up sometimes they are included in main articles in question. eg. STARGAZER had summaries on its page for years till 6~ mts ago when i separated them out to individual pages for each episode.Denbo786 (talk) 20:21, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

So I already moved the page. The goal is to have summaries for all episodes of Gundam series, as well as for OVAs. We can drop redirects as needed--Gaeaman788 (talk) 20:30, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Should be move this talk-page now then? Because Talk:Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin redirects to Talk:Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin (Manga).  Fort Max says 'til All Are One and Deculture! (Talk) 21:06, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Already done--Gaeaman788 (talk) 21:45, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Ages of the Zabi family.

The origin makes a huge issue of almost all of the Zabi family's ages except Garma and forces a serious retcon.  Given that the first episode takes place in UC 0068, that would make Kycilia 13 (definitely not), Dozle 17 (possible, but very unlikely given his appearance and behavior), Gihren 24 (this one is actually possible, with the exception of his siblings ages taken into account), and Sasro at the oldest 24 but born later than Gihren (with the same issues as Gihren.)—This unsigned comment was made by Diseasicon (talk • contribs) on 15:44, February 28, 2015‎.

You forgot your signature, but that is a good point.--Observer Supreme 16:28, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Chronicle of the Loum Battlefield

So, should we treat this as a sequel OVA or just two additional episodes?--FortressMaximus #realcanon #TruEU #webuylegends (Talk) 06:30, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

The colon

I'm thinking of renaming pages with "Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin" in the title dince it would avoid the awkward second colon in the Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin MSD: Cucuruz Doan's Island article--FortressMaximus #WeLoveLegends (Talk) Sign 03:27, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

Possible choices:

• "Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin", The all-caps version is used by Vertical Ince and the official English site whereas title case version is used on Right-Stuf's site: [2] [3]
• "Mobile Suit Gundam - The Origin", If we're not comfortable with the lack of punctuation, Anime Limited use this: [4]