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  • Hi Zeph08! Thanks for fine-tuning my edits on Gundam TB Federation MS! I'll be doing the Zeon mechanics tomorrow.

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    • A few advice...

      1) In case it is not clear, the thunderbolt's mobile suit pages are for both the OVA and manga. Due to there being some differences in the story telling of the OVA and manga, it is best that you state clearly which version of events you are referring to when writing the history section (except if the  events happen in both versions of the story.)

      2) When writing the mobile suit profile, please refer to official sites (such as http://gundam-tb.net/mechanical/first-renpo.html) and sources (such as information provided in the manga) and avoid speculations. 

      3) It is unclear if the events in Gundam Thunderbolt takes place in the same timeline as the original MSG, or if Thunderbolt is an alternate timeline/UC universe, etc. So best to refrain from comparing MS, events, etc between the two.

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    • Noted. Thanks, desu!

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  • Zeph08 you have undid my edit on Ahab Wave and gave me the name of the source book "As per Mobile Suit Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans Mechanics & World 2' Book (M&W 2)"

    Do you have the actual scan of that particular page that explicitly states electronic is included?

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  • Please make sure the reference are accurate before undo-ing my edits. One of the references is unavailable, the other one from the Hi-Resolution manual doesn't say "physical" attacks.

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    • I return these words back to you. Please try to find and check the sources before deleting them. 

      1) About the Hi-Resolution manual, you must be dreaming or seeing things wrong, the manual did not mention 'beam' at all as you claim when you were making edits. The front page of the manual where the information is from only mention '衝撃' (shock or impact). It should also be noted that the Hi-Res model was first released in 2016 Mar (see here: https://www.1999.co.jp/10367059), which several months before the airing of the season second in 2016 Oct, where beam weapons finally make an appearance with introduction of Hashmal. Logically, the impact/shock being talked about in the manual is most likely from physical attacks and not beam attacks. Furthermore, when IBO related sources talk about nanolaminate armor protecting against beam weaponry, they tend to say the armor diffuse/refract (or words to that effect) the beam and not absorb. Also the absorbing impact part matches well with what is written in Mobile Suit Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans - Mechanics & World. Which bring us to the next point:

      2) The part you have doubt about in the Mechanics & World book is here, https://e-hentai.org/s/cf70fd771d/983275-92, take a look yourself. Again, please try to look for the source yourself and give others the benefit of the doubt unless you have proof they are wrong. 

      3) As for the Chryse Guard Security Webpage P.D.323.08.31 Entry link, the website was working when the page was first written, so is it that surprising the link was there? Sometimes Bandai/Sunrise change the web address and we are unaware, but that does not mean the information is wrong. Anway, here's the new address, http://g-tekketsu.com/1st/sp/cgs.php, again take a look yourself. 

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  • Can you cite where you've gotten the information for the recent edits on the Guncannon?

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  • Can you help me move RAG-79-G1 Waterproof Gundam to "RAG-79-G1 Gundam Marine Type"? I don't think I can find any official source that called it "Waterproof Gundam". Both Great Mechanics and Mobile Suit Illustrated 2015 just called it "Marine Type Gundam" or "Gundam Marine Type".

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  • Hello Zeph08, I've noticed your edits on the YMS-01A Union Flag article and others regarding the change of power source type terminology in the infobox from 'Solar Energy System' to 'Solar Power Generation System'.

    Could you reference here where it is you've seen this terminology used officially, this is just so I know whether or not to update my listing for those vehicles in my Anno Domini mobile weapons classification system, thank you.

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    • A line has to be drawn somewhere. As for the rest, i do it on my own time, that's obvious isnt it?

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    • Well in case anyone sees this message thread and is interested in discussing it, then my suggestion for the power source terminology in the infoboxes would be rectennae, as that word by itself is much more descriptive and requires no other context for comprehension like the terminology of 'Solar Energy System' and 'Solar Power Generation System' do.

      And it would take about a couple of minutes to edit the remaining articles though, there are only a few Anno Domini mobile suits that use that type of power source, that's why it looks strange.

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  • I believe moving the trivia and images for the intermediary form to the Shinki Kessho page is more appropriate.

    This is because

    • The intermediary form has parts from the Shinki Kessho (new shields and new shoulder, front skirt and knee parts) that the base form lacks.
    • The Shinki Kessho Gunpla kit was likely meant to represent its intermediary form.
    • It's reasonable to assume the missing components were animation differences. Similar reasoning to the difference in the Gundam The End's Ikkaku.

    Let me know what you think.

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    • I have explained myself pretty clear in the notes & trivia section i think. Just some points to add on. While the added shields look similar to Shinki Kessho's, whether they are the same is unknown as the animation quality is not that good and the amount of time we get to look at them is simply too short to make that a definitive judgement (hence, i noted in the page that the new parts are 'similar'). For similar reason, the same can be said of the missing components.

      The final two nails on the coffin for me is that the HGBD manual noted the Shinki Kessho's motif is the Full Armor Unicorn, which the RX-Zeromaru with new parts in ep 23 to first half of 25 did not fully comply with. The manual also noted that the Shinki Kessho's psycho-frame is always green, which again, the RX-Zeromaru in these epsiode isnt in. 

      Overall, I prefer to be on the safe side and put the Gunpla under the normal RX-Zeromaru than the Shinki Kessho as the Gunpla did not fully match the latter's specs. Put it another way, in a game, if you are halfway to gaining sufficient exp to level up, your level would still be listed as the lower level and not the higher level you are on the way to achieving. 

      Oh, as for the Gundam The End's Ikkaku, that is simply the anime not showing the "Tsunowaru" form, not a missing component. A similar comparison for this case, would be how the GBD anime did not show the Shinki Kessho's Real Mode.

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    • Alright then, thanks for the quickly reply.

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  • Hey don't stop me about there love relation

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  • may i know what wrong did i make ??

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    • Don't think, look up source.

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    • For the name, i agree with what Kuruni said. As for the weapon's text, calling the Micro Hide Bombs as small space mines instead of small bombs seems ok. After all, the Hide Bombs used by Gyan were described as a type of mines in the model kit manuals. 

      For the very dead horse that is Freedom's explosion and if that is the nuclear explosion we saw, i have nothing new to add. Again, those issues have been debated to death, the horse has been buried and exhumed for examination countless times in forums and AFAIK there has not been an agreed conclusion to that issue. IMO, best to let the dead horse lay in its grave. Having said that, would be nice if you can find an official book or scan that definitively describe what happened. 

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  • Stop changing the beam, saber description. Your version isn't sufficient.

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