Talk:GNT-0000 00 Qan［T］

Fanart
Although it might look official, the Image with the name "Quanta Basic Lineart" is not the official look of the Qan(T) but merely a fanart. I put it in the gallery and readded a screenshot of the movie trailer in the infobox. The file was posted in the AnimeSuki forum. Diabound00 18:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry. Okay then. Simant 20:08, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Can we get a consensus to not put fanart as page images please? This one has been reverted back and forth several times now, and it needs to be made clear to all editors --Balesirion 05:53, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I see nothing wrong with using fanart as long as its accurate and the artist has given permission for its use. Jak Crow 06:42, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * In general, I think the fanart gives a better view of what 00 Qan[T] looks like. Even though the shades of color are a bit off (the blue is too light), it seems to follow the movie screenshot almost perfectly, so I would say, if there is fanart for ONLY the movie Gundams, then put them as the main infobox picture as long as they are accurate to the movie screenshotGaeaman788 07:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I seriously object to the use fanart.Our job here is to be as accurate as possible to the true source,even if we don't always do that job well.The least we could do is get a picture right.
 * I mean Wikias already have a bad reputation of being inaccurate,its not something that can be helped easily,we're all human afterall.But I feel that at least.......at the very least.......we can get .......the right.......official..........image.
 * For the record,its very nice art and I like it even more than the official one but the problem is,that its not official.I don't mind it being in the galleries and labbeled as fanart,but in the main article image?That's seriously misleading.The fanart was released before anybody even knows how Qan[t]'s rear looked like,which was done in the last 24 hours or so.


 * Besides,we just got a new lineart recently that shows us the whole suit.Its black and white and maybe not as fancy or pretty,but its probably more reliable.


 * Just compare the recent released one and the fanart,they are differences.Call them minor if you want,but the point here is that we're dealing with a media that's unreleased.Going with fanarts is dangerous and does not help our credibility either.


 * In summary,we already have a lineart that is official and would be true to the official product.So why in the world then are we using a fanart?This isnt an anime released 1 or 2 years ago that we're all familiar with of,this is an upcoming product.Its better to stick to official material.In other words,accuracy over fanciness.We'll get better and official pictures later.


 * I don't like the CG pictures that we keep using either;not as main articles pictures anyways but the Ms in those are of media that's already out for a long time and people have seen those a 100 times,so I can live with it even if I disagree with that policy.00 Qan[t] was only seen once in a scene that lasted no more than 7 seconds.


 * I vote for removing it as the main image of the article.I just cannot accept using a fanart for something that's still in developement.Even if that fanart is very awesome looking.-SonicSP 18:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with SonicSP. We should remove the fanart and, at least for now, stick with the screenshots or the black-and-white scans. We all should be patient because in a month or so we will have official lineart. Diabound00 19:51, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you Diabound00 and SonicSP. Yes, I did say that the fanart gives a better representation of what 00 Qan[T] will look like. However, looking at your argument, I do think that the fanart (in terms of the shield) is inaccurate, and that we really shouldn't treat 00 Qan[T] as some special page. Zabanya, Harute, and Raphael all use movie screenshots, so why not 00 Qan[T]? I don't think using the black and white images will do the mobile suit justice. Also, I don't like the usage of the CG art that's in the 00 pages, but they are very nice looking and unless we have a debate about whether or not we should use the anime accurate images, I am also willing to accept the CG art.Gaeaman788 20:10, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I took the liberty of changing the pics to the recently released lineart ones for 00 Qant and the other 3.I've outlined my objections to the fanart above already.But if you want more reasons,its because not only are the linearts official but they also are more comprehensive,whing us the rear view as well.For people who has not seen the suit before visiting the page it,they can get a good view of the entire suit.And they can guess the colors from the gallery pics. SonicSP 08:41, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, as long as fan art is as accurate with current information at the time, there should be nothing wrong with using it. No one has ever said the Qan[t] page is special, there just happened to be an early fan created lineart item. The item in question appears to be amazingly close to the official design (especially just eyeballed from a quick promo video). It wasn't misleading to use it, but if it will make people "feel" better, we can label fan created line art as 'conceptual based on available information'. At this time, if the artist were to revise his lineart to make it accurate to the official design, I would pick it over the current b&w image because it would be cleaner and in color and thus a better presentation.


 * Also, I've never seen anything that says that wikia has a bad reputation, so I don't know where that claim has come from. Jak Crow 16:01, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia and Wikias in general have a reputation to being inaccurate or unreliable.We're a good place to learn a series from scratch but not necessarily a good place for a referencing something.It can tbe helped based on the ways wikias work.Its a negative thing,but without this Wikias cant be as opene editing as it so it comes with the territory.SonicSP 15:45, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, that's pure FUD created by politically motivated people guilty of editing politicians' wikipedia entries to smear them. Studies have shown Wikipedia itself is as accurate and contains more information than Britannica. The only people I've ever found to slam a wiki have been found on free republic, where they'll say a wiki page dedicated to the periodic table is "leftist propaganda". Those that say wikis have a bad reputation say so out of self serving reasons and are obviously not the target audience here. Jak Crow 02:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

SEII Boklet
http://img63.imageshack.us/i/up420320.jpg/

This image is from the SEII booklet,due to release in a few days time.Anyways,like the last one,it reveals a "bit" mor einfo on the 4 movie Gundams.

Translated by Mike_S_6[ from animesuki forums,who also translate of other sidestory stuff for us,so thank her]:

Raphael 

''It is an MS that is observed to be an evolved form of Seravee Gundam, and is equipped with large weapons. It is entirely wrapped up in many mysteries. ''

Zabaniya 

''An MS developed with the same concept as Cherudim Gundam. It has a system wherein a large amount of arms could be put in the container at the back. ''

Harute 

''Has Arios Gundam's development model, but the transformation mechanism has been changed in a big way. The machine adopts GN Archer's elements. ''

QAN[T] 

''A machine that is an evolved form of Exia and 00. It is installed with the new system that is called "Quantum System". Starting with the sword bits, [okay, not sure with the next phrase, still looking for that cut-off kanji...] it seems to be furnished for a melee soldier.''

The translator is having some trouble reading some parts of the paragraph of 00 Qan[t],because there are some parts that are not clear or are obsucered due to the way the page was scanned.

I decided to included the ones for the other 3 as well,might as well right?Nothing particularly groudnbreaking other than stating what is mostly obvious,but the mention of the Quantum system is interesting.

-SonicSP 18:48, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

More Info from the SEII,this want is from the Prologue To the Movie video,which came with SEII,it featured the director and 2 of the mecha designers:

Translated by Mike_S6:

[PROLOGUE TO THE MOVIE] Movie News Flash Complete Explanation 

At the Expo: • The reaction in the hall ([to the] characters and MS) was happy, the news flash broadcast went well. • They thought that the staff who produced the images that weren’t going to be used in the movie in such a short time were amazing • It wasn’t Mizushima who decided they ought to show the video, it was a suggestion from the staff Mizushima: “Is it alright even though the movie designs haven’t been fixed?” Staff: “You/We should do it.” They* were very grateful for that attitude. {idk who the subject of this is or what exactly the poster means, my apologies} 

The design changes after the news flash was shown to the public–>present changes • The armament pattern[s] is/are still changing • The Expo news flash was a really early draft (proposal stage [designs]), but you couldn’t say that the impression of the designs has changed a great deal 

Ebikawa’s explanation: • The “Quantum System” (I heard “Quantum” from Ebikawa’s pronunciation) is a function that is tied to a/the main thread of the story (of course in the interview stage, he can’t speak about it at length, lol) • Qan[T] is an MS borne from 00 and Exia’s line • The new weapon is presently called “Sword Bits.” They comprise Sword Bits and hand-held GN swords (is this new too?). There are 7 swords, taking over Exia’s Seven Sword concept. 

Yanase’s Part 

Zabanya • A power-uped form of Cheridum. Since it [Cheridum] was completely destroyed in the TV series, it has the feeling of being rebuilt with the same concept (as Cheridum). • It was created with the suggestion that it should “carry a lot of guns” in mind • There are a lot of weapons in the container on its back • The container was designed to have the feel of wearing a shield. A few heavy weapons were designed. 

Harute • The transformation process evolved [some] from Kyrios to Arios, but because Harute is a zero[-G MS], I started by changing the transformation process • When the mechanical design was ordered, I was told that they[Mizushiima?] wanted weapons from the GN Archer to be incorporated. So it has a tendency toward heavy weaponry, mainly missiles. • The upper body of the MS has strong ties to Kyrios and Arios. The flight mode’s entire image has a different feel from what we’ve seen up until now • If we weren’t doing the movie, I wouldn’t have been able to present this transformation method/style (a calorie-like problem {idk what a “calorie-like problem” is}). Hearing this, Ebikawa, who was sitting next to him [Yanase], unintentionally let out a laugh/smile. 

Raphael • From the beginning the design was always going to be derived from Seravee, but I was told to make it something different when the design was ordered. • In the initial idea, Raphael had hands that could be used as a cannon when brought together. • As a result of trying to make Raphael’s cannon arrangement especially cool, it ended up like this. • Since the news flash version, the color* has completely changed (there are reasons for the change) {*color might not be literally referring to the color scheme–sometimes it’s more like variety/type but there’s 

SonicSP 15:49, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

New Updated 00 Qan[t] Colors
I posted a new pic of 00 Qant,I previously said it was from a new year event in the edit,but the source was actually Newtype January,so sorry about that.

Well,lloks like alot of fanart become obsolete.I think there some physical changes as well.

SonicSP 19:24, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Twin Drive Confirmed
At yesterday's new years,event there was an event in Japan concerning the movie.A new trailer was shoed there and alot of new info released.

Here's the link to the entire description,translated by Mike S6 from a blog from someone at the event: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2847446#post2847446

What I'm posint here is only a small part of the whole thing,but its the only one thats relevant to the Twin drive info.

Scene 4, Saji's VA on stage, then with Tieria's. Then Setsuna's come in and then he goes with Louise's. 

 After the VA's there's Tieria's scene. He talks about 00 Quanta. Then newsflash! Because he said that it is equipped with TD, it seems that Quanta will have it.</b> Then Setsuna's VA with Feldt's VA. Feldt sends Setsuna's QBW info to Ian etc., and Feldt says, "I wonder if this has become a world without strife." I was surprised because with this image, Feldt had short hair! Will she have short hair in the movie? Then Setsuna's VA comes in and talks about Neil, then Graham's VA comes in. They reenact the episode 25 of s1. The audience laughs every time he delivers interesting [or funny] lines. The audience got so excited when the "This is certainly love!" "Love?!" lines were delivered. [ah, and the audience just kept laughing at Grahamshido, must have been fun] Graham said that "I am no longer Bushido, I live as Graham", so he seems to be Graham in the movie. Surprise guest Yuna Ito comes and performs Trust you. </i </i>

the bolded statement is describing a section of the trailer.The thing was showed twice,once as fragments at the event[the rest are describing what the VA wer edoing on stage,yeah I loled at Graham's VA too]'' then one more timeas a Full Trailer,at the end of the vent with all the fragments combined. ''

''Some of you may question the validity of the entire thing,well for the record the same thing was done for the last trailer.The first movie trailer was showed at an event,the Gundam Big Expo,and until it was released months later in Special Edition 1,all we had was descriptions from ppl that were there,and the trailer released matched perfectly with the descriptions that had appeared.So tried and done before. ''

''It will probably be awhile until we get to see it for ourselves though,maybe not until SE III gets released. ''

They are loads of other info ridden this event has given us,most notably some stuff about Graham being a guest at Ptolemy[literally],as well as Setsuna sortieng in 00 Qan[t] screaming in pain because of a series of events[A Tiera clone appearing in Ptolemy and causing it,as well an attack by a GN Flag that forces him to sotie]''. ''

Sigh,I cant handle this,too much info to transcribe in regards to the movie.Even in terms of linking the translations.Sorry guys. SonicSP 10:49, January 1, 2010 (UTC) </i>

''So did someone change the coloring of Qan[t] or did an artist F' up in the pamplet? personally i liked the color in the trailer.KuroKirin 02:48 January 3, 2009 ''

''Oh they always change things in the production process. Especially when it comes to animation, color schemes are easy to change with computers. Wasabi 04:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)''

Question, shouldn't the main image for the 00 Qan[T] be switched out for the movie version colors instead of the designer colors? Since all the other 3 Gundams have normal colors

Someone Cleanup the Image or Wait!
That recent rough-edit addition made pic of 00 Quan[T] was horrible, we need someone with photoshop skills or simply wait until the official pics are released on the official site. Wasabi 04:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. (has not photoshop skill's either) :( Simant 18:37, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a happy bastard now, the new pics makes a world difference. Wasabi 02:39, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I made that pic..........-_-*go cries near a corner*[though I admit I have no photoshop skills].The current 00 Qan[t] pic is edited by me as well,though just had the picture split up and erased whats leftover of the other [they used to be one pic].However when I tried to post it after uploading it,the pic wont appear on my computer so I reverted the edit as I feared something was wrong since the pic wont appear.Though somebody did post it into the article later.

This one has 00Q on a white background so no biggie,almost had to do nothingthe other one was hard to take out from.This one is from Newtype February,the previous one from Newtype January.SonicSP 12:31, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

GN Drive on Shield!?
It is just me or i just spotted one of the GN Drive right under the shield? Wasabi 12:53, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its still unconfirmed as to exactly what that orb like thing is...it could either be a GN drive or a GN condensor.
 * Azkaiel 12:59, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

If this is the picture that you are talking about (http://superrobotwar.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/srwhotnews_nt2_00m1.jpg) then it is too small to be a GN Drive, all the more likely it is a GN Condensor. Besides, after what happened when Ribbons cutting off the 0 Gundams GN Drive in the final episode(http://randomc.animeblogger.net:8000/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2025%20-%20Large%2016.jpg), it would be unwise not to addresss this critical issue. All that is know at this point is that it does have the Twin Drive, a new one thanks to Teria and CB's scientists getting their hands on the Innovators designs. Since the nature of the imporvements made to the GN Drives are unkown, it could be concieved that the they are located in front and behind of each other, one in the chest area above the cockpit like Exia, and the other in the backpack connected to the shield. This is possible, especially when someone looks at the interior of the GN Drive (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/d/d5/GN-0000_GN_Drive.jpg), notice how most of it was designed for flight? That the GN Furnice and t

he TD Blanket are disk shaped? If the flight and manuvering abilities are now handled by thrusters in the body and limbs, similar to the improvements to the Exia R2, then they would have no need for the flight or exterior sensor components thus shaving off unneeded parts in order to fit inside the chest, this would confirm a hint made of a new form of GN Drive for the Qan(T). Weather or not this is true, the evidence is there enough to support this theory, and likely is the case as the logical location of the second GN Drive.Totem 00:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The GN-Drives Cones[the ones designed for this anyways] usually handle direct forward thrust,and much less on the anti gravitational mobility functions of the MS,that is handled by the rest of the body somehow.-SonicSP 10:41, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

HELLO? Has anyone looked UNDER the shield? It looks like some kind of thruster or exhaust, which would lead me to the conclusion of that 00 S7 big sword on one of the drives which has the same function as the Raiser is similar to the thruster under the shield. This would lead to the ability to Trans-Am and TABS. By the way, if the furnace and the blanket survived 0 Gundam's explosion, all they need to do is install that in a GNT drive from the ESF and then they got a REAL GN DRIVE going on.-Wabbiman

0 gundams drive was destroyed and that has been confirmed and we dont know if TRUE GN Drive Components mixed with Tau Drives Components would make a TRUE GN DRIVE with both Drives having different Components its unlikely that adding True GN Drive Components to Tau Drives would make a TRUE solar Reactor. AND as for 00 Qan T look on the page there its been comfirmed i think by SonicSP that its Actually a Cannon. Shindy00 00:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

This http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/GN_Drive_TauThis shows the information we have on the GNT Drives. Now there is an empty space where a TD Blanket should be at, but there isn't. As a result, it is possible insert a TD Blanket, and with some modifications to the drive, it should be able to harvest the baryonic matter. SIde note: If it is a cannon, does SonicSP have evidence?-Wabbitman

Yes actually look on the page i BELIEVE there is a link and plus ive seen it said in a few forums too. Shindy00 20:57, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I looked everywhere on the page and there is NOTHING about a cannon nor a theory. Besides, what idiot puts a cannon under a shield?! And no offense but those forums that said that were: 1) IDIOTS and 2) Speculating.-Wabbitman

From the looks of things, this theory is confirmed, the second drive is located on the shield. Now as for what it does when the shield connects to the back mounted drive is another story. Personally, I believe that when the two drives connect a burst function similar to the one used on the R2 is activated. PhantomSynchron 17:39, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Prototype?
In the units combat designation, why does it say that it is a prototype? What reference states this? Wouldn't it be the final product after the rough work was done on the 00-Raiser? Especially after the battle with the Reborns Gundam when Celestial Being recovers and repairs 00, modifies it to suit Setsuna's transformation into an Innovator, performed the tests for the GN Blaster (with a GN Condensor inplace of the destroy GN Drive). Wouldn't the GN-0000GNHW/7SG 00 Gundam Seven Sword/G technically be the prototype, not the 00-Qan(T)? I mean, shouldn't the 00-Qan(T) be a full unit? Or is someone just speculating on a units designation or did someone just copy and paste 00 Gundams stats on the 00-Qan(T) page. Totem 23:49, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well,its mentioned in the 00 geneology that its developed from the 00 Raiser+GN Sword III,but small issue I guess.Yeah,I'm pretty sure its speculation but this wouldnt exactly be the first time we've put a speculation on the designation type,its been done a lot of times before so I usually don't bother with them too much.However,personally I believe that the basis of calling a prototype would be from the new Quanta System,though I'm not really advocating either for or against the prototype being there,although some of the things implemented in Quanta comes from new released data by Veda;which may include the Quanta System and such.

It would not be the only speculation on the page anyways,they are many more speculation in the article.A bit of an eyesore to me but not much can be done.They'll be updated and corrected when we get the info for them nearer to the movie's release.SonicSP 06:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's also the issue of whether or not anything is going to happen after the movie. I don't think it's really a prototype per se, it's most likely the pinnacle of CB's MS development. BTW I switched the CGI art for the official lineart. And has anyone noticed how much Qan[T] looks like Reborns Gundam?Gaeaman788 17:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I have also noticed, now with the new colour scheme and redesign. In all likelyhood the reason behind it is because the remains of the Reborns Gundam was one of the spoils of war that Celestial Being made sure to acquire. The trouble it gave 00-Raiser aside, it is also the only other machine with the Twin Drive, and a source of data for Celestial Being's scientists, examining the refinements the Innovators did to the design and develop for the 00-Qan(T) (and to prevent it from falling into enemy hands).Totem 07:30, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

hey SonicSP, the page says that QanT is a prototype right? this is confirmed????Shindy00 00:34, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Artist Links
Several uncredited artists works are being used here and no one bothers to link to these artists. Can we please start doing that? Jak Crow 16:17, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Use Anime Color Version?
Now that we have our final "anime color" lineart that the anime will be using, shouldn't we use that one instead? The designers colors that is currently ARE lighter than the final anime colors,as it has with Exia and 00.-SonicSP 10:32, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

It Should Be "Close Quarters" Only
The description that keeps coming for 00Q keeps mentioning that its very close quarters based. The Special Edition II manual should be one example. Since that seems to be the stated emphasise, it really should be close quarters only. "All Purpose" is very misleading and suggests that it specialised for everything which is possible but I think the armament and the notes speak for itself.-SonicSP 13:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Updates on 00 Qan T
ok, I cleaned the page on 00 Qan T and deleted all the unless info so now I need to get the reference (sources) part done. If anyone can help that would be AWESOME.Shindy00 16:03, May 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * http://www.gundam00.net/ms/index.html
 * It seems the website got updated. Also,00Q's page says this which toysdream from Mechatalk translated:


 * 型式番号の「Ｔ」は、ツイン（ＴＷＩＮ）を意味する. 
 * 純粋種のイノベイターとして覚醒した刹那のために開発された機体. 
 * 搭載された太陽炉は、ツインドライヴシステムのために新たに開発されたものである 


 * "The 'T' in the model number means 'TWIN'. 
 * This machine was developed for Setsuna, who has awakened as a 'true breed' of Innovator. 
 * The solar reactors installed were newly developed for the Twin Drive system." 


 * What I find most interesting here is the plural usage of Drives.


 * Also Shindy, lookup at the SEII booklet parts of this discussion page, I've placed some older scans and translations there. By the way, I may reply late to things, I don't come here everyday-SonicSP 06:54, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey SonicSP, what exactly did you want me to do on that SEII part did you want me to find those missing words cause if so ive found the full translation of the booklet(dont ask me how it took like 7hrs XD ) but i wont post this info until i know if thats what i should post
 * Shindy00 04:21, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

New Twin Drive System?
Just thinking, If there is a new GN Drive to be used by the new Twin Drive System, I think it will somehow be like Two True GN Drive combined

and by what I can see is that if you will pull of some parts of the Old True GN Drive and combine it, It will somehow look the Qan(T)'s GN Drive. (just to let you know you forgot your Signature)

Well if you look at the above post it says on the offical site that "the SOLAR REACTORS(pural important point) developed for it were newly developed for the Twin Drive System." That means there IS TWO. What I want to Know is Exia's Reactor!!!!!!!

1. did CB create 1 drive to use with Exia's or

2. did they make 2 new drives

Shindy00 19:45, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, according to Mark Simmons, the guy who translates it. There is neither a singular or plural indication on the sentence unlike in English. Japanese does not have plural or singular indicators like English and need to directly state the number I believe. He did put a the plural indicator there, but he admitted his fallacy in the translations by using plural when writing it in English when I questioned him on the plural issue, I too was intrigued with the plural thing and wanted to him to confirm it to me.


 * Essentially, the best translation goes like this actually:


 * "The solar reactor(s) installed was(were) newly developed for the Twin Drive system."


 * Yes, its extremely vague in terms of no of Drive created but such that's how it is.


 * Considering the fact that CB lost only one Drive and will only need 5 to cover the 4 MS main team, creating one seems to be the likeliest option, especially given how difficult it is to make an Original Drive. However, no confirmation is given of anything this statement does not help us to the answer since it can be interpreted as a plural or singular in Japanese; other than the fact that CB made at least one new Drive. Something that we've guessed for a long time given the new Jupiter project that they launched after S2 as mentioned in 00V Senki Chapter One.-SonicSP 00:15, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank GOD you confirmed that. Well we do know 00 QanT will have two GN Drives, so they must of either made just one and tuned Exia's Drive OR they Made two new ones, and YOUR right SonicSP it does take a considerable amount of time to make a True GN Drive plus its only been 2 yrs so i really do doubt that they made two. cool thanks for the update. Shindy00 22:13, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Another interesting item of note is the physical appearance of the 00 Qan[T] in regards to its drive system. While 00 Gundam employed two "standard" external drives, it would appear (pure inference) that 00 Qan[T] uses two "in-line" drives with one visible in the chest and the other visible in the back plate, meaning the drives are placed back-to-back with the "front" parts of the drive visible on the front and back of the Gundam. If this stands true, then this could account for an increase in efficiency and easier synchronization between the drives if they are placed in-line. Arvis1804 15:19, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * He's got a point everyone! Shindy00 20:55, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The HG kit shows that the GN drive in the shield can pop out and the shield can move into place to connect it to its backpack. So Arvis1804's post should be correct. Must be that these 2 drives can connect when ever Setsuna needs the extra thrust.Spartan Ambose 10:42, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Use Designers Colors Version?
As the other 3 Gundams from the movie are using them, shouldn't Qan[T] get the same treatment? -Godred01 15:36, June 28, 2010


 * Well, is there a pic of 00 Qan[T] with designer's colors version? [User:Bronx01|Bronx01]] 14:46, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I searched a bit and found out that the article did use them months ago. I returned them to the gallery section (though I wouldn't be surprised if they removed them in favour of the fan art again) Bronx01 15:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, so who's gonna put these in the infobox in place of the anime version pics? -Godred01 17:05, June 28, 2010


 * Done. —AscendedAlteran 16:42, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did we ever held the discussion on what version to use for these pics, whether the Designers color version or the Anime version? Although I'm personally fine with either. -SonicSP 02:36, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The consensus was basically that we're using the Designer Ver. for the other 3 movie Gundams, so we should use the same version for the 00Q for consistency if nothing else. I personally prefer the Designer's Colors: there's more detail and the gloss of the Anime Ver. annoys me for some reason. —AscendedAlteran 04:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * For me, I strangely have a problem with the coloring of the designer linearts with the exception of Ebikawa's 00Q; of which I've always will dislike the anime version and like the designer; but the opposite is true for Yanase's linearts for me. And strangely, this is true for me for all the anime generations from Exia&co, 00&co and 00Q&co. Although the designer lineart looks supern in black and white linearts that they sometime potray in books and in the MG/PG manuals. Not that I have a problem with using them for the article at all since I still like them, I'd pretty much take them over the 3d images anyday personally.-SonicSP 17:27, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I personally think we should switch Qan[T] back to the anime colors and put the designer colors down below since they're not anime accurate.Gaeaman788 18:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * I personally think we should switch Qan[T] back to the anime colors and put the designer colors down below since they're not anime accurate.Gaeaman788 18:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * If thats true, why are they still up there? -The Chronicles of Dav7d2 05:27, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

A bunch of anime lineart
 * http://i.imgur.com/bergF.jpg

QanT Front and back
 * http://i.imgur.com/mNUT2.jpg
 * http://i.imgur.com/254Zw.jpg

That should cover it for the anime versions. -The Chronicles of Dav7d2 06:38, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

HG 00 Qan[T]
There are now new scans for the HG 00 Qan[T] and it's new uses for it's GN Sword Bits. http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/07/hg-1144-00-qant-new-images.html

I can see the Sword Bits can be attached to the GN Sword IV to become a Buster Launcher or a Buster Sword. Is this official?Duo2nd 01:18, July 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Mainstream model ad pics like these are usually based on their real abilities. The pics certainly look like the usual advertising pose pics that they use. So yeah I do think its official- SonicSP 02:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * i agree with sonicSP hey here is a question does the model show the location of both GN Drive?Shindy00 17:01, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we can call it a Buster Sword.-Wabbitman
 * I think we can call it a Buster Sword.-Wabbitman
 * I think we can call it a Buster Sword.-Wabbitman


 * Wabbitman, please sign your comments. You can do so by typing ~ 4 times at where you want your name to appear. To shindy, no the model does not seem to show the location of the Drives; not anything we can suspect directly anyways. -SonicSP 17:23, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you Sonic Sp. :D Wabbitman 00:43, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you Sonic Sp. :D Wabbitman 00:43, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

00 Qan(t) weapons
Anyone else notice that the Qan(t)s gn sword 4 looks alot like a keyblade?


 * I personally do not see the resemblance that much. By the way, please sign your comments it would be easier to to diferentiate, who is saying what.-SonicSP 14:23, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

actually SonicSP i think he says that cause of the guard and hilt of the sword.Shindy00 22:50, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

More info on GN Sword Bits and GN-Sword IV
http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/07/mg-rezel-others-from-hobby-japan.html And let me guess......it has a LOT OF combinations too. OWO Duo2nd 02:07, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Its also called the GN Sword V apparently.-SonicSP 21:22, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't really see any other combinations, but that's probably my limited imagination. —AscendedAlteran 05:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

REALLY sonicSP what happened to GN Sword IV than????Shindy00 22:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

No idea, but odds are that they would explain it in one of the side stories. Either that or they're going to bring in something completely unexpected in the movie. PhantomSynchron 16:58, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No info on where the GN Sword IV is, it could be used some other place like a prototype weapon or something. A possibility is that its on the 00 Raiser Repair, but thats just one idea I've heard people brought up. We have no concrete info on where it is for the moment but I imagine we will find out sooner or later. -SonicSP 22:42, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone catch that Quan[T] Manual?
Did anyone have a chance to get a proper translation of that manual booklet that may explain a few things about our long debated Gundam? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/4841857085_28058a0f1c.jpg

Wasabi 04:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the weapons are going to most likely be translated into english text, so if we could get a sufficient zoom in on the instruction booklet that would be of grat benefit. And someone who can read japanese katakana and translate it to english properly would help Gaeaman788 06:16, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is the better image version of it, but even this version is not good enough to make a translation off.

However, the visuals does suggests that the Drive is located on the backpack and below the shield respectively. Specifically the kana labelled "4" has a picture of the backpack and the cylinder object below the shield beside it. However, I seriously think we should refrain putting it in the article until we get confirmation by text translation. -SonicSP 15:41, July 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * The HG 00Q manuals says that the Drives are located on the back and "left shoulder" according to makubex32 from animesuki. The text part labelled "Twin Drive System" (in japanese writing) has two pictures right beside it, the 1.backpack and the 2.cylinder object underneath the shield; I'm guessing the latter is what the manual meant by "left shoulder" since 00 gundam's Drives are described in the exact same way (despite not actually being its "shoulder").


 * In sum, the translated text from the manual plus the two pictures beside 4."Twin Drive System" written in Japanese pretty much nails it; the Drives are in the backpack and in the shield.


 * 00Q also possesses a mode in which the shield swings to the back and the "shield cylinder" and "backpack" are connected together as showcased in the assembly section. -SonicSP 17:44, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Change 00 Qan(T) to 00 Qan[T]
The title of page is wrong. This seems to be something that no one has sorted yet!

Godred01 22:06, 03 August, 2010


 * Now, i could be wrong about this, but i think '[]' are special chars, and can't be used for the title. Hence the ''
 * ~ Azkaiel 21:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Godred01, you must be new, because that was discussed nearly a year ago. Wikia has a coding conflict and that's why (T) was used over [T]. You should've seen how it was before, it was -T- :P

Wasabi 15:34, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Its the best we can do under the circumstances.

-SonicSP 17:13, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

2 New GN Drives?
Is there proof that 2 brand new GN Drives was used? I thought there was only a single replacement drive?

Wasabi 15:34, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

hey Wasabi i was just gonna post something like this, great minds thing alike huh anyway in my opinion i doubt they made 2 i think its just one seeing as it takes a time to make a new one. the model kit also may mis lead this cause they may say its 2 new ones but they may mean that just one but the exia one may get some upgrade or tuning to make it work with the new one. PLUS i think there may be deeper reasons why only CB wants just 5 drives they could certainly make more if they wanted too. just wait till the movie i guess.Shindy00 18:32, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * All the translators seem to say it. I've asked the services and received around 4-5, and all of them say it. Its from the Hg00Q as I've cited in the article when I made the edit. and around 3 of the translators are the residential ones that always does this for the community. And I understand the reason for the questioning, thats why I've asked a few to do it and asked as much as specifics as I can because I was sort of perplexed as well.


 * Here's one of them from one of my personally trusted ones, this one I requested it from her personally:


 * 'mike_s_6:


 * "It says two new drives developed in Jupiter, used for the TDS. One of the images point out where they are installed. And I think this would be the first time I'd say anything really useful to you about those manuals!"


 * <b>mike_s_6:


 * "Don't think about it too much, Sonic, it really says "two" in the Japanese text. Two pieces. This isn't a case of plural vagueness regarding the language."</i></b>


 * Before the Hg manual, the closest thing we had was the 00Q movie website profile. It says that "00Q has newly created solar furnace(s)" [the pluraility or singularity of the sentence is not specified; this is just the nature of the japanese language. Hence it can either be "newly created solar furnace" or "newly created solar furnaces"]. We mostly assume that the likelier case is one solar furnace created since CB only lost one, but unlike the webprofile, the HG seems to have specified it.


 * The specific nature or the circumstances, or how this will play into Cb's arsenal in the movie, we don't know. They may lose a Drive early in the movie to balance things to 5. For example, they may lose one of the Drives early in the movie, or they had may have been used in the contruction process of the new two (lol crazy theory), or even that last Drive being used on Ptolemaios. All we know from the HG manual is that the Drives onboard 00Q were newly created, and it has two.


 * On a personal level, I think the sentence in the article should be simplified as "the Drives onboard 00Q were newly developed on Jupiter". This would provide a more neutral and vague sounding concept, like the HG is apparently doing. I'm apparently still suspicious myself that two Drives were "created" but that doesnt mean that an existing Drive could not have been upgraded or "developed" there as Shindy's suggestion (my personal theory is that one of the Drives is actually used for the creation of the new set; but I cannot really use that in the article can I?). The sentence I suggested is vague and can convey either meaning of it turns out to be one or the other. But then again in the end the possibility that they just created a set of new specialised Drives is not so far of a stretch either.


 * All the translators seem to go with the two Drives developed on Jupiter (for the record, not all of them are from the same place/forum) so I'll go along with it. I cant just doubt them based on what I think or suspect since translation and conveyed meanings is their field; not mine and as such I will trust their judgment and decision.


 * -SonicSP 17:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Great, 6 GN Drives and one of them unaccounted for. Wasabi 17:39, August 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Exactly, those people over there at Sunrise and Bandai REALLY know how to keep us in suspense. They'd know we'd jumped over the HG 00Q manual like mice to cheese so they'd make it as vague as they could possible. On an unrelated note, the missiles ports on Ptolemy Kai are all missing from the lineart so it makes me wonder if its going to be more beam based and if that means..............a more potent energy source will be used to help the power supply.


 * I would lol it turns out that this is where "Dynames Repair" comes in. But yes, its certainly suspense.


 * -SonicSP 17:42, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Full Saber Pack Confirmed
https://superrobotwar.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/this-month’s-hobby-japan-magazine-2/ http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/08/pg-strike-freedom.html Now we know what REALLY happened to the GN-Sword IV. It was an optional armament for the [Q]ant all along. And to think the Tactical Arms is that good...Duo2nd 08:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

And just when I thought that Fridge Brilliance was in effect, that'll teach me to be a fan with ideas. - The Phantom Impact 21:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Two New GN Drives To Replace The Destruction of Exia and 0 Gundam's Drives
..............................now anybody notice anything wrong with the topic name? If so, then you have been keeping up with the facts so far.

I wanted to do this in the previous similar topic but its too important to pass up. According to the recently released 00V Senki Chapter 10, CB lost both GN Drives of 00 Gundam's Twin Drive System. Which means both Exia and 0 Gundam Drive was destroyed in the final episode battle of S2-25. It also specifically mentions that it was destroyed during the battle of the Innovators, which means it could only happen in one specific battle.

So why does this does so weird? Its because that in 00V Senki Chapter 4 specifically mentions that only one Drive was lost. S2 novel 5 that came out the same month also mentioned that 0 Gundam drive was history so that helps specify things.

Then this comes along and adds Exia's Drive to mix of casualties, well so much for consistancy. Just so you know, I had a few translators check both chapters, and both seem to say what they're known to say so there is no translation issue. What we have here folks is a retcon. However, this fits nicely with the other info that two newly created GN Drives for 00 Quanta. In fact, this chapter further confirms what the HG 00 Quanta kit has been saying so total number of GN Drives CB has is back to five, as opposed to the previous six before this retcon.

I will then give a brief history of the "state of GN Drives" so to speak after S2 ended from varios statements:

1.Last year, in an interview on S2 Official File 5, Mizushima the director mentioned that "no GN Drives was destroyed" due to an internal GN Field that protects them. However, in S2 Official File 6, he has specifically retracted this statement and mentiosn that the fate of surviving Drives is unknown.

2.Forward to around early this year, 00V Senki 4 chapter has Ian mention that they lost one GN Drive in the battle againts the Innovators. Finally they've given us an answer ever since they retracted the previous interview statement.

3.Then fast forward this month, they give us 00V Senki chapter 10, which mentions that CB lost two Drives lost which are those of 00's Twin Drive system and that the two newly developed Drives in Jupiter is to replace them.

And there you have it folks. -SonicSP 22:31, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

So we have a Retcon of a Retcon. I don't get it, I've been watching the battle between Exia R2 and the 0 Gundam over and over again and I can't see how Exia's drive could have been destroyed, unless it somehow got caught in the 0 Gundam's explosion, and if it did, then which drive did they use for the Seven Sword/G? - The Phantom Impact 00:13, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please sign your comments please. It helps when we're discussing.


 * Anyways, my personal guess is the beam saber that pierced Exia. Remember that Exia's GN Drive is inside the torso rather than the cone, My guess is that it must have done something to damage the internal Drivecore since the Drive Chassis of the 3rd Generation Gundams are the cylindrical object that Nadleeh released back in S1. Exia has that inside his torso. The pierce wound is pretty close to the middle, although it exits the body without touching the back cone. Eve4n if its not an explosion, it may be something enough to cause permanant damage to the Drivecore. There's something I want to expand too in my theory, but I'll wait for future reply before expanding my theory a bit more. -SonicSP 00:01, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Right, sorry about that. Anyway, I suppose that makes sense, but that still doesn't answer my question about the Seven Sword/G - The Phantom Impact 00:13, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

i think we should wait for the movie to confirm but it doesnt make sense cuz didnt ian turn put 1 gn drive and 1 gn condenser in 00 gundam after the battle of innovators

I don't thnk all 5 drives survived. I think that since Exia's and 0 Gundam's drives are the specific ones that make the 00 activate, Exia's drive survived while 0 Gundam's didn't. I don't know how Seraphim's drive could have survived a direct shot to the chest, but I'll theorize that the four drives (besides 0 Gundam's) were able to produce a internal GN Field to protect them from critical damage while 0 Gundam's drive couldn't. So, needing another drive to have 00 perform higher functions, like Trans-Am, Linda went to Jupiter to make another drive.Gaeaman788 02:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * @ unsigned name:Ian did put one Drive and one large Condenser replacement inside 00 Gundam Repair; there should be 3 perfectly fine Drives so there's nothing wrong with that at all. In a later chapter, they equiped 00 Gundam with two large Condenser Tanks and had it perform Trans Am.


 * @Gaeaman: The recent retcon information fits with the HG 00 Quanta statement that CB was making a pair of Twin Drive compatible Drives to being the number of Drives back to 5 while the retcon also mentioned that its the pair that belonged to 00's Twin Drive that was destroyed. Also, 00 Gundam can perform Trans Am with two large Condenser tanks in the sidestories. In the movie, 00 Raiser Condenser Type also performed Trans Am Burst.-SonicSP 17:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I must say I'm impressed SonicSP. This info is ligit, and it's complex! Well done! Wabbitman 21:41, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Just have one question.
Can sword bit shoot on its own like GN fang? やらないか? 05:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

No. "remote flying blades without any particle firing capability like GN Fangs" -- Rimus 08:43, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * It did not in the movie and no descriptions have popped up about it. Though I imagine the green material can help in the beam focus of the GN Sword V when used hence the combination modes.


 * They can be used as regular swords though, they have hidden handles in them. -SonicSP 17:25, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sakibure?
There was something about a MS named "Sakibure" that's been put into the notes section. Could someone please explain what this supposed MS is and what it does and why it's at the end of the series?Gaeaman788 20:26, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's what the upgraded 00 Quanta at the end of the Movie is named. -The Phantom Impact 20:40, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? I think SonicSP made the change, so believe he has the AotT novel, if I'm correct. Is there any more information on this suit besides the ame and its appearance?Gaeaman788 23:29, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have the novel but I got the info from somewhere (sakibure thing is not from the novel however). It's from one of the book that have the staff commentary released recently. Don't know the name of the book but I know that there was one released recently, where some of the screenshots have come from. Name of the staff who made the comment is Kenji Teraoka and paraphrasing; he mentioned that the MS that appeared in the epilogue is called the Sakibure and goes to describe that there is an ELS on/inside it's head. We believe that the MS in question is the modified 00Q that appeared in the epilogue.
 * By the way, I uploaded the modified epilogue 00Q image onto the gallery. If your allergic to flowers, I receommend staying away from it. -SonicSP 18:18, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Gundams use all their mentioned abilities
hey guys i've been reading this and that on the gundams and other Movie MS so i got one question.

Do all the Gundams Show ALL the Abilities and mean ALL of the Abilities that WE have listed on their repective pages?Shindy00 21:41, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nope. 00Q doesn't use it's Buster Sword or the Sword Bit beam saber. The hidden beamgun inside 00Q shield is of course also absent. Not sure about Zabanya or Harute. Raphael did not use GN Field or it's GN Bazookas. -SonicSP 01:12, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

:V
WHO THE F&^% REMOVED THE OFFICIAL ARTWORK?? DAMN!Duo2nd 14:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well whoever did that is totally dumb, we're going for anime accuracy not coolness factorGaeaman788 14:31, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Put The Concepts Back?
So, anyone here think we should put some pics of the concept versions back into the Gundam's articles? Into the gallery that is. I thought they were pretty cool, but more importantly at some point in time they were the "official" early representations of these mobile suits. I think it may be a good idea to put some pics back. It doesnt have to be a lot, just a few seems reasonable. I think they should be remembered at noted. Not to mention, it emphasizes some of the design changes that we can see in the final ones. Would be cool to see what the designers thought of at some point. Zabanya had a large front change for example but the back is totally the same

So, thoughts? -SonicSP 06:31, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Issues with Features
Guys, don't know about you, but 00 Qan[T]'s features has been bugging the hell out of me. Forget the fact the bits can't fire particle weapons, the fact it can be remodified to help enhance its GN Sword V makes it slightly acceptable. However, I realized this thing over relies on its bits for combat, which is a ridiculous weakness any opponent could exploit as it seems to be pivotal in so many ridiculous functions for combat. You need the freak'n bits just to create a GN Field!? 00 Gundam could generate a GN Field without 0 Raiser. That's a bit hard for me to accept as that makes the bits the most ridiculous liability and less advance in terms of combat applications. Is there any additional data on 00 Qan[T]? I refuse to believe this so-called awesome MS can't be at its full potential simply because it's missing some bits.

Also, who the hell wrote up the new stuff? The grammar is seriously bad and needs reworking. I also need confirmation that 00 Qan[T] was built using recycled parts, because it's always been known that the unit was built brand spanking new and not from scrapped parts. There's a lot of new information about it's bodily capabilities and I'm not sure how reliable are they. SonicSP or any senior editor, can someone confirm the newly added material is true? Also, whoever added the new stuff, please correct the grammar, there's serious mis-spellings in the lower paragraphs.

Taikage - more thrilling than day-old sushi :P 21:34, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Well most of it anyway. The thing about the bits is, yes it is shortsighted, and yes, someone should hae gone from behind Setsuna when he had the GN Field and sho him inthe back since the field faces one way. But its anime, who are we to question it. The recycled parts bit isn't sourced but it makes sense. CB doesn't have the money to make all new parts for its units. So logically they took some spare 00 Raiser parts, upgraded them, and made the 00 Qan[T]. Gaeaman788 22:16, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be best to show some proof, even if we can easily guess that they re-used parts, we need to comfirm it at best. Infact, considering how much technology they put into it, we need to make alot of references, in order for people to know its true. Then they can understand and accept, the unit is very complicated, if we just starting puting info on the page based on common logic. Then people will question it. Dav7d2 22:35, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Earlier articles have always said this was their only newly built unit. 100% new parts everything, now there are conflicting data over what's been established. I'm tempted to erase all the new technical data because nobody can confirm it. I'll wait for SonicSP as he's our resident go-to-guy when it comes to data confirmation over certain things. Taikage - more thrilling than day-old sushi :P 23:01, November 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't confirm about the re-used parts. The data appears to have came from the MG manual, which I have no details on because no one has translated it and post it as a translation. Judging by the paragraph, it appears to be mixed up with some text that clearly came from the manual. Whether these text are actually part of the manual or came into the mix, I am not sure and cannot confirm.


 * Anyways, I think we need to ask brave Commander if he was indeed the user who put it into there based on what he translated. Personally though, I'd rather he put the translation seperate so we'll know what to quote/referenced from where (if he did placed it in there, I havent checked the logs yet). I know a lot if not all of these info (of the last three paragraphs) definitely came from the MG, I have a good hunch (due to the AMBAC data, in one example. The language style matches as well from the other translations I've read) but if BC was the one who put it there, then he will need to clarify where the last three paragraphs are pure translations or whether he mixed the info with other stuff. I think they're pure translations IMO, but we need the translator or the person who put it there to clarify.


 * So, if it was indeed you, BC can you help us out here? That will be appreciated. ^_^ -SonicSP 19:14, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I got confirmation on the last three paragraphs, they're legit and are from the Mg 00Q manual. Regaridng the parts thing, I'll "try" and clarify it tomorrow. It's not that contradictory actually. -SonicSP 15:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Technology & Combat Characteristics D=<
"Lessons learned from 00 Raiser's Raiser System perfected the Twin Drive System of 00 Qan[T], thus eliminating the need for additional stabilizer equipment like 0 Raiser."

I don't want to be mean, but can this be more elaborated? people might question how the Raiser System prefected it Dav7d2 22:30, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

That explanation would best be put in the Twin Drive System page itself. Probably had to do with the drive sync. The max two drives together could get w/o stabilization equipment was like 83% or something. Maybe the 00Q's drives were built specifically to be constantly synchronized at 100%? I'm not sure, most of the info comes from the HG and MG manualsGaeaman788 22:36, November 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Personally, I would rather delete the line but I've refrained myself from doing so all this time. CB already learned the perfect system when they actually deployed the 0 Raiser (Ribbons copy pastes this knowhow into the Reborns, which doesn't have one either), they just didnt do so because it would require heavy modifications to the already well functioning 00 Raiser in the midsts of a campaign.


 * Anyways, the Raiser System isn't what perfects it since the Raiser System is a short use system that helps high volume usage of particles in TA for specific uses, namely the Raiser Sword and a mimic of Trans Am Burst. The system that stabilizes it is unamed AFAIK (was anonymously mentioned in the 007S profile and the first 007SG profile)


 * From S2-11, the 0 Raiser seems to have a superior control system that allow the Drives to sync better in conjunction to ensuring that 00's frame is not overloaded with particles in TA. In truth, it's all about the synchronization.


 * If your asking about what does one mean by synchronization, but nothing specific is given. Given the complex nature of the Twin Drive system(a lot of quantum physics is involved and we haven't even figured all of it out in today's world) which uses the most advanced forefront scientific knowledge of the time, it's likely very hard to even elaborate.


 * My personal theory is that it does involve particle entanglements; which itself is just a theory (as opposed to a fact) in today's world. -SonicSP 14:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

SonicSP, can you correct the "Technology & Combat Characteristics" section? There's a lot of odd data at the bottom and there's no way for me to confirm is it true or not. Could you correct it? Thanks. Taikage - more thrilling than day-old sushi :P 15:00, November 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look later, when I'm in an editing mood. Kind of tired ATM. -SonicSP 18:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, regarding the AMBAC thing, I "think" its true because it appeared in plain English inside the manual but bravecommander has not given me the translation as I requested. I think he may have placed it in the article directly. Anyways, its been referenced to the MG, so my suspicious are correct. Can you confirm Bravecommander? -SonicSP 18:52, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion:Put Front Quantum Burst Lineart as 3rd pic
I've done it already once, but somebody removed it. Anyways, as ugly as it is, I think we should put the front Quantum burst Mode lineart as a 3rd main picture. It should fall under the category of alternate forms, like Harute's Fighter Mode. -SonicSP 15:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

So it's more like Unicorn (Destroy Mode), you're saying? Ok, I'll get them both up there unless a senior editor has a argument against it. Gaeaman788 15:18, November 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * You know, I think your also one of our seniors. >_> -SonicSP 15:30, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

I have no objections. Actually I'm kind of surprised I didn't think of it before Sonic... —AscendedAlteran 15:51, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

I would refrain from putting it up so quickly, mainly due to the fact that the picture is too dark, I would rather we wait till we can get a better picture, then put it up. Dav7d2 21:44, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at it, and ignoring the fact that its in a different shade of colors than the 00 Qan[T] we're using as the main profile pic, yes it is pretty dark, so I'll undo it for now on the basis that it's too dark to really see unless anyone else has objectionsGaeaman788 23:06, November 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * One of the reasons it doesn't match is because the Quantum version is using the anime color version which is darker while the main profile pics are using Designer Lineart version. Other than that of course, it's the scan quality.


 * I still think it should be there, but I wont force the issue if you guys disagree. -SonicSP 09:19, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually SonicSP, the picture we were using is actually just darker......we were talking about the fact that their is a not-so-dark version of it. I mean the original magazine scan didn't have it that dark. Just, no one has gotten around to cutting out the better quality of it. -Dav7d2 09:27, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Development
The 00Q is developed from the Full Saber? I though the Full Saber was supposed to be the complete version of the 00Q? Shouldn't it be the other way around? —AscendedAlteran 16:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

We don't know the Full Saber's role, so my Suggestion would be to state normal 00Q "developed from" as 00 Raiser (as the pg 00 Raiser chart says) and leave FS "developed from" as empty for the moment. The profile will be released in a few weeks anyways. -SonicSP 11:12, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Photo Opinions?
I was thinking of replacing the lineart in the picture gallery with the MG lineart. What do you guys think about it?

-Dav7d2 17:49, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Need Some Photoshop Cleanup!
Guys, I added in a recent page from GN Info about 00Q's Quantum System. Someone please clean this up to replace the darker earlier version, thanks.

Taikage - Admin of Gundam Wikia, but no pay check T_T 05:51, December 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll pass on this one. Looks very hard >__>. Also can someone clean up the Sakibure lineart as well? I think it's higher res. -SonicSP 08:55, December 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh dang! Nice Find! curious as too where you got it though.... -Dav7d2 18:14, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

That was purely coincidence. I googled it while looking for something else, but it's in the animesuki forums. Taikage - Admin of Gundam Wikia, but no pay check T_T 18:53, December 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I wish I had Photoshop, then I would do it. I have done some photo cleanup WITHOUT photoshop before, but it takes an hour or more with the windows paint. I tried right now, the one part that is the hardest would have to be the condenser on the leg, the dark green mixes with the black,ugh! Anyways, I might take a crack at the GN Sword Kai and Marute face though. -Dav7d2 19:09, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait 5 minuts. I'll do it. -- Rimus 20:14, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * And here we go! If you need some photoshop, just ask me in my talk page -- Rimus 20:43, December 16, 2010 (UTC) Qan(T)BurstRear.jpgQan(T)BurstFront.jpg

Wow, Rimus your good. -SonicSP 12:01, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Flower Power!
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No I am not suggesting that it is powered by flowers! So now we have a better look at the flower-fied 00 Qan[T]. To me it looks almost like it has Destiny Gundam wings. Anyone notice the pointy GN Drive on the back, it looks pointy like the one that the ELS GN-XIV uses. I wonder if those wings work like huge fangs or something OR are those "wings" the Blade bits, but just separated. Is he flying around space with the shield attached to the back the whole time? -Dav7d2 - The ChroniK Editor! 07:18, December 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the 00 Quanta had an extreme makeover over the last 50 years, to the point where it has no weapons what so ever is constantly stuck in Quantum Burst Mode to be used a diplomatic tool rather than a weapon of war, thus the Aesop is complete - The Phantom Impact - The ultimate Super Robot from beneath the heavens 01:23, December 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * So far, it's been left up to fan interpretation as to the ultimate fate of Setsuna and the 00 Qan[T]. I agree with Phantom that Setsuna and the 00 Qan[T] got a makeover in 50 years, so I'm guessing the ELS used the 00 Qan[T], somehow assimilated it and gave it back some new armor. I also think that the 00 Qan[T] is still being used for communications with alien life by the ELS, since the ESF is doing their deep space exploration. This would mean that the 00 Qan[T] is weaponless, but i guess we will have to waitGaeaman788 01:35, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I personally doubt that the 00 Qan(T) is going to be totally weaponless really. Well, definitely not "harmless" for sure. -SonicSP 12:00, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

"This mech has arms, does it not?" - Elzam V. Branstein

When I read 'definitely not "Harmless".' I immediately thought that quote from SRW OG 1 -The Phantom Impact - The ultimate Super Robot from beneath the heavens 16:47, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Why would it have no offensive capabilities? I mean, if he ran into another type of alien, and he tries to understand them. What if they don't "respond" back so kindly? and start attacking like the ELS did. He would have to use force in oder to make them understand, then when the time comes, Quantum Burst! -Dav7d2 - The ChroniK Editor! 23:22, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Time to replace the crappy pics!
Guys, now that the movie is officially released, we can begin replacing all the bad "mug shots" with better ones. I'm busy with an exam, so please delete all bad online screenshots and place them with HQ/HD snapshots. I'll pitch in next week, thanks to all for your help, Merry Christmas. Taikage - Merry Christmas to all : ) 00:25, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Control!
Considering now that hes part ELS and 00 Qan[T] is part ELS, isn't it possible, that he doesn't need joysticks anymore. Like he can become part of the mobile suit and control it that way? he moves, it moves kinda thing.


 * That's likely already possible with the current 00 Qan(T) since Tiera and Ribbons' Innovators already could do it with their QBW for Nadleeh and the Gadessa-Series respectively.


 * Joysticks are still the preferred choice though since it requires less effort and is less stranous on the pilot's mental capabilities. Still, God knows how the ELS00 Qan(T) in the future is controlled though. -SonicSP 18:51, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Quantum Warp?
Guys, is there a official label to 00Q using his bits to travel to other worlds at light speeds? I was going to add in Quantum Warp or Quantum Slipstream. Anyone? Taikage - cracking down on fantasy gundam bloggers 07:09, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I remember on the screen of the 00 Qan[T], right before he warped. It said "Transition Standby", so I guess its "Transition". -Dav7d2 - The ChroniK Editor! 07:08, December 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Ive heard Transition is used on the screen, so it could be the official name of the system. -SonicSP 18:49, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I confirmed on the raw, it said Transition Standby. I must admit though I thought there would be a cooler naming scheme than Transition. Any case, anyone know is this related to the Quantum System or separate? Taikage - cracking down on fantasy gundam bloggers 07:38, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Light speeds? Unless the ELS homeworld was close to Earth (and this is unlikely because a supernova at that range would have also eventually bombarded the Earth with enough radiation to scour all traces of life from the planet), Setsuna would not have been able to get there and back in the span of 50 years. The closest star to earth is still 4.37 light years away, so Setsuna would not have arrived there in time to reach whatever kind of understanding he came to with the ELS before Earth would have been assimilated. No, that system is most likely some kind of Faster-Than-Light travel mechanism, possibly involving long-range teleportation via quantum entanglement. SachielOne 19:25, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Besides the quantum warp make me think of the Time Warp from RHPS, I am also skeptical of how Setsuna reached a understanding with the ELS in less than a minute and save the Earth. (unless the ELS read Setsuna's mind when he was in the core and was thinking about what to do.) At least we know now that the 00 Qan[T] was assimilated by the ELS, possibly along with Setsuna. Transition is quite a silly name, though we can assume that it is much more powerful than quantization, seeing that when 00 Raiser quantized, it could only do it at short distances. When the 00 Qan[T] did its thing, it traveled out of the solar system.Gaeaman 788 - pilot of the RB-79/FS Ball Full Saber 08:43, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * They could work under similar principles even if the distances are different. Could be like a wormhole, both quantum warp and the Transition System.


 * Of course, one important difference is that quantum warp isn't built into the 00 machine and is just a byproduct of the Twin Drive while the Transition system appears to be a built in designed ability, that of course utilizes the Twin Drive likely.


 * I like the name Transition, sounds simple and cool. -SonicSP 14:15, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

ELS MS pictures
I just noticed something. The pictures from the mangas that showed the ELS 00 Qan[T] and the ELS 00 Raiser Condenser Type were removed. Could someone explain why they were removed from the gallery?Gaeaman 788 - pilot of the RB-79/FS Ball Full Saber 15:31, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cos the manga deviates from the anime cinema version in some respects and is not canon, such as Graham's death and the actual appearence of ELS Gadelaza and ELS 00 Raiser, so technically they do not exist. While not as radical as the TV series manga adaptations, it's still deviates from it. I also removed the ELS faction from the 00 Raiser Repair page, though this was more than a month ago I think. -SonicSP 01:41, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * So why was the ELS 00 Qan[T] removed? It looked like the 00 Qan[T] we saw at the end. Should there be a article for the 00 manga and its changes vs the movie adaptation?Gaeaman 788 - pilot of the RB-79/FS Ball Full Saber 03:32, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 00 manga as a whole? The English version was already completed, up to the end of S2. If anyone have those copies, they could help with the page, I guess. --Bronx01 03:49, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

If somebody has all the TV series adaptation then be my guess, but we lack all the necessry data for 00A at the moment to make an article of it. -SonicSP 03:52, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know it exists, but I think we should at least put in a article about the 00 movie manga. We don't have to go through the entire movie again, but we should at least describe some of the differences between the manga and the movie. What exactly is 00A? Is that the manga for the movie or something else completely different?Gaeaman 788 - pilot of the RB-79/FS Ball Full Saber 02:03, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thing is we barely know anything to make an article of it, we just know some differences and even then not even the details of those differences of the sequence of those events. It's a matter of not having enough info. 00A is the movie manga btw. -SonicSP 22:05, February 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Apparently THIS is what the ELS 00 Qan[T] looks like from the latest chapter of Gundam 00N. -Dav7d2 - "You mustn't let mistakes weigh you down. Acknowledge them and take what you've learned to move on. That is the privilege of being a man."-Full Frontal 09:52, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why does that remind me of a peacock? 0_oGaeaman 788 - is a administrator 10:51, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because it is a peacock. -SuperSonicSP 18:05, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

ELS Qan[T] Twin Drive
After looking at the official pics of it from 00N i strongly believe it still possess it's 2 GN Drives, one in the torso and the other inside the peacock-like tail piece on it's back as it looks big enough to contain it. As the movie shows these new GN Drives are alot smaller than the previous ones.

Godred01 23:50, March 28, 2011


 * The complete chest torso Drive Chassis is actually the same size as a 3rd Generation Chassis as shown in the MG (the smaller mini-chassis shown in the movie is inserted into the larger 3rd Generation like Chassis thats in the torso), but your generally right GN Drives and GN Drives Chassis are not the same thing. GN Drives cores have always been super small, just that they always require Chassis of a certain size in order to function optimally. This was generally huge up until the 3rd Generation, however the 3.5/4 Generation Chassis were dramatically smaller, which allowed for the specialization Drive traits of the S2 Gundams that's been mentioned in the source materials.


 * I don't think it needs to be mentioned in the article when talking about the ELS Qan(T) however even if its super likely to be the case. -SuperSonicSP 04:06, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

GN Field with the shield
I saw in a G Generation World video that the 00 Qan[T] can make a GN Field using the GN Shield by itself, not just with the Sword Bits. Should we add this in the GN Shield section, or not?

FuronXXXX 04:20, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Video games don't make a good source unfortunately. Sunrise labels them as a black level source. -SuperSonicSP 07:29, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank god for the Trivia section - The Phantom Impact - The ultimate Super Robot from beneath the heavens 11:44, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would not mind putting it in the trivia though, but I would object to putting in the main section. -SuperSonicSP 21:52, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding ELS Qan(T)
Do you guys think ELS Qan(T) requires its own separate section (specifically I'm talking about the variant section)? I mean we have very littler info on it, but it is identified by a different name and is of course a very modified suit (appearance and equipment wise) from the original 00 Qan(T), so it should be counted as a variant at least. By the mechanical and labeling category, it should satisfy all the variant requirements. Ideally, such a different suit should get its own article in my opinion but that's not possible under the little info we have. Personally I think it needs its own place under the variant section and have a description of it. So what are your thoughts? -SuperSonicSP 15:33, June 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was actually just about to suggest that myself. And actually, it wouldn't hurt to start working out a solid set of criteria for what things need to be met before we consider separating them. I like consistency. And accuracy, of course. Both of which is largely why I'm here. —AscendedAlteran 16:11, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what we do with every other page with those assimilating aliens. Theres also a few updates that were just posted on Gundam Guy. They have to do with G-Rooms. It''s called 00N Integrated G-Rooms which is basically an artbook consisting of previous art from 00N/G-Rooms and has some information on the ELS 00 Qan[T]. Sonic, if you could get your friend to translate that for us it would be a great help to finally solving the mysteris of the ELS 00QGaeaman 788 - The sign of Zeta leads to a dead end 07:03, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can 00Q quantatize??
Just curious to know whether this ability still possessed by 00Q? Gundamfan99 16:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you mean "can the 00Q do the exact same thing as the 00R?", then it's possible it can, given that the 00R's quantization seemed to be activated by Setsuna's instincts since the 00R wasn't designed to actually do it. —AscendedAlteran 16:18, June 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, thanks for the information. But still it seems that 00Q need its sword bit in order to use GN field. While 00R can directly activate it's GN field.


 * We don't know that for sure though. Yes, it only used the Sword Bit-based GN Field in the movie, but there's a lot of features we never got to see the 00Q use in the movie. —AscendedAlteran 17:21, June 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * We still do not have confirmation that the original 00 Gundam can use a full GN Field (the HG manual does not elaborate the type of field), only that 00 Raiser can. And Qan(T) is a standalone machine more akin to 00 Gundam than 00 Raiser; having much less space to put stuff in. They may have too much stuff in the shield already, that they decided to use a different GN Field system.


 * The advantage of the current system that it can be used to protect allies by manipulating the fields at other places, just like Seven Sword's GN Field system can by deploying the field remotely. In theory, you can actually play around the new system in several ways, like deploying the field against a single incoming beam far before it comes near Qan(T). Other than that, I'm guessing Qan(T) is just designed to rely on its speed mobility and raw power more as opposed to defence.


 * We don't know whether Qan(T) can teleport in and out like 00 Raiser did, but its very plausible. OF course, that phenomenon is still very much a mystery, since its not a MS designed ability and more of something the Twin Drive somehow grants and Setsuna telepathically activates.


 * I don't think it has the ability to use a full Field however, since even now it has not been listed in any of the usual acceptable sources; which have repeatedly labelled Qan(T)'s abilities including those not in the movie.-SuperSonicSP 17:32, June 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I never said the 00 could use a full field. The 00Q being able to use one is just a personal fanon, honestly. —AscendedAlteran 18:04, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see, thanks SSonic for the detailed explaination. I thought that QUANTATIZATION is triggered because of Raiser system (as being stated in this wiki in Raiser System part - have a look at that, stated there Raiser system aided quantatization, means no Raiser system then no quantatization). If it is as what u said, then as long Twin Drive System is present along with True GN Drive, then 00Q still can quantatize. Thats a good thing because that teleport technique is what made 00Q special, haha. Gundamfan99 22:45, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see, thanks SSonic for the detailed explaination. I thought that QUANTATIZATION is triggered because of Raiser system (as being stated in this wiki in Raiser System part - have a look at that, stated there Raiser system aided quantatization, means no Raiser system then no quantatization). If it is as what u said, then as long Twin Drive System is present along with True GN Drive, then 00Q still can quantatize. Thats a good thing because that teleport technique is what made 00Q special, haha. Gundamfan99 22:45, June 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * @Ascended The reply was not directly in response to yours. I was just opening up my reply with stating the basic 00 Gundam's unconfirmation of a full GN Field ability. Because 00 Qan(T) is only a base machine as opposed to a combined machine like 00 Raiser, if 00 Gundam never had a full GN Field system, then even 00 Qan(T)'s GN Field system can be considered a fair improvement/not much difference over 00 Gundam's machine ability.


 * @Gundamfan Yeah, the Twin Drive System should be enough for 00 Qan(T) to quantize in theory. Of course, one thing we have to take into account is the confusion about what Raiser System is. We know the Raiser system has to be "activate" with Trans-Am in order to create that sword, but we're still not sure whether its the same system that aids in order to synch the Twin Drive to Max and allows Trans-Am to be used safely. We know said system is onboard the 0 Raiser, but we do not know whether they are one and the same. Personally, I think they're separate systems. -SuperSonicSP 13:36, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

ELS Qan(T) Being a Variant
Gaeman erased it from the Variants section just now, I disagree with the erasure so I'm going to argue on why I believe is a a variant. I believe it is one simply based on the fact that it has a lot of modifications and equipment changes to it. Remember that our defination of a variant in this site includes the same suit but with a much different equipment set. Examples are plenty from 00 Seven Sword, Exia Avalanche, Exia Repair and many others.

Its clearly not the same 00 Qan(T) that we see from 2314, in the sense that it has undergone a lot of modifications. It now has flower petals coming from it, the ability to morph its outer layer into something else, and if it possesses any offensive abilities it has to be very different from the original Qan(T) because its original equipment is gone. Not to mention, it now has some ELS in it and in addition it is officially given its own name in the 00N Compilation book, even if we do not get a designation number. Exia Repair and Exia R2; both still being the same "Exia" has much more minor changes done to their own whole being and their still considered Exia variants under our definition so in my opinion this one should be too. Astraea F and F2 are other examples of upgrade modification to suits that we list under variants. -SuperSonicSP 21:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ohh ok, I didn't actually check who did that edit. Is there any more info on the ELS 00 Qan[T] from Final Mechanics or any other sourcebooks? Semi-unrelated to this, but I saw some scans of Final Mechanics online, and it talked about some of the initial designs for the movie suits, and the season 1 and 2 suits as well. I think we should put the info from Final into the Trivia sections of the respective units' pages. Also, the book also talked about some thought of an Exia 1.5. Since it obviously doesn't exist in the main storyline, should we put it in the trivia? There also some info on what actually happened to Setsuna when he left Earth for the ELS homeworld...I think.Gaeaman 788 - The sign of Zeta leads to a dead end 22:13, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, if you can get somebody to translate the info then I don't mind putting it in there. Its from the book afterall. Anything outside the storyline should go under Trivia as usual (including the Exia 1.5) and preferably we should label every info that the book says with the citation at the end. Did you read this info from the Final Mechanics book directly yourself or somebody made a translation of the contents? If you can get info on what happened to Setsuna from the book, that would be great!


 * To my knowledge, there's no more info that has been translated regarding ELS Qan(T). I would have placed it here in a heartbeat if I were to find any though. -SuperSonicSP 23:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

It's 49 pages though. Here's the link of the raw scans I found. The previous page I think has stuff on Setsuna, but its only like half the text. If anyone could translate the information from here and post it down below that would be a great helpGaeaman 788 - The sign of Zeta leads to a dead end 23:14, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you guys want, I'll upload some of the pages here, if that would help. --Bronx01 (talk|contribs) 23:17, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually I found a link to download the Final Mechanics. But I don't know if it's allowed to post those kinds of thing here... HPZ - O.N.E. 01:38, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Homeless ripped her final Mechanics book and scanned it for us so HQ a long time ago scans is not an issue. The problem is how we can derive the info since its all in Japanese. In other words, we need a translator. -SuperSonicSP 05:58, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

NEW TWIN DRIVE OUTPUT
The new GN Drive installed on 00 Quanta, does it has higher output compared to the old GN Drive installed on 00 Raiser? Or is the output is the same?


 * To my knowledge, no direct mention in any source on whether it's higher but considering how godlike the Qan(T) has been boasted to the point of being able to hold off and defeat the ELS army in a theoretical model, it is presumably higher.


 * Considering they are actually newly created Drives (the last batch was made 100 years ago or so; in a time where GN Science is mostly theory too) made to be perfectly compatible from the start might hint to that too since they were made to have a perfect synch match unlike 00 which uses just two from a random pair not designed from the start for Twin Drive pairing specifics. Comparability might affect performance too. -SuperSonicSP 05:56, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the explaination Sonic. However, if I'm not mistaken, the GN Drive on Zabanya and Harute is the old one right? Meaning to say, their boost in performance is thanks to their new frame right?Gundamfan99 06:20, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's likely the case yes; however......


 * It's important to note that even the same Original GN Drive's output can be upgraded. Case in point are the GN Drives on the S2 Gundams which we know possess a higher output than that of the S1 Gundams according to the 2nd Mechanics book. Most likely though that this upgrade in output comes from the improved peripheral equipment since most of the S2 GN Drives deviate from the standard 3rd Chassis design. The core parts very likely remained the same though I guess maybe its not impossible to upgrade it but maybe hard because they are functioning continuously.


 * There's always a chance the Drives used on Harute and Zabanya have been upgraded, but there's been no translated mention of it if it is the case. Can't be ruled out though because the drives in S2 got a output increase too even though their cores are the same as from before.. -SuperSonicSP 01:01, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Quanta vs XN Raiser...
As we can see that in Gundam War Card, XN Raiser has more value than 00 Quanta. Does this mean that XN Raiser is stronger than 00 Quanta? I've tried looking for articles about XN Raiser, but none of them provide detailed informations, including this wikia. Hope someone here know the answer. Thx... Pronunciation 06:22, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Little info exists on the XN Raiser, it's just not described in detail I believe.


 * I personally doubt it, even if it is likely stronger than 00 Raiser, it's still at the end of the day just extension of it. Rarely; almost never even does one of the previous generation Gundams in 00 have a variant that is stronger than a successor. Besides, Qan(T) have been described to be almost pure hax while 00 Raiser in general is much less so. I don't think the Gundam War Cards are that trustworthy either, not in gauging power with in game stats kinda way at least. -SuperSonicSP 14:53, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice... I do hope that you're the one who answered the question since you're the most reliable 00 expert in this wikia. Well, the point is the possibility of Bandai made ​​a mistake on their card, right? I also doubt the validity of the value on those cards, since there are several more cards with unsuitable value. About the XN Raiser, from which side story does XN Raiser derived? Is it possible that it comes from another/non-canon story which tells the reader that it is actually has more output than Quanta? Perhaps the answer can be found in its HG manual book (you once said that 00 series' gunpla manual book is a reliable info). Hopefully there are people who can read Japanese and want to share the info with us... Pronunciation 04:14, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well XN Raiser is from a special 00V chapter and as I said there's been little info mentioned on it period. I know the source material most of it comes from which is the chapter and most translators I asked said there's very little of significance there. It's pretty much as canon as any other 00V variant out there. There's also no HG manual for it since its just a limited promo release though it got its own special 00V chapter and profile. There's just little info released on it.


 * I won't put too much on War Card thing, it's an in game stat and those can be altered for balanced sake within the game. If taken seriously, Qan(T) can be top three of all suits in Gundam meta series period, if not top two. -SuperSonicSP 14:34, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Top 2? Then which unit in your opinion ranked 1st? Turn A? --Gundamfan99 04:09, January 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, now I see... Too bad that Bandai did not adjust the value on the card according with the original story in such detail 'coz it can lead to a debate I'm afraid. Thx for your willingness to explain, Sonic. @Gundamfan99: yepz, I think Turn A should be placed in top 1st since moonlight butterfly is the most devastating weapon a Gundam class MS has, although the suit itself is arguably inferior compared to 00 or SEED series' suits... (personal opinion) Pronunciation 07:16, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

@Pronun: I watched Turn A, the suit performance is seriously lower compared to most Gundam, and even though the moonlight butterfly is devastating, but Loran cant utilize it freely and surely with 00Q ability to teleport, to slice Turn A in half before it can even utilize the moonlight butterfly, so it is not a prob. Plus 00Q can easily teleport out from the moonlight butterfly range of effect. Nevertheless, GN particle can block the nanotech as it can even stop a beam shot as being shown by 00 when it was first activated... And with such advanced tech like 00,Seed, Unicorn, I can hardly believe Turn A is the top.... I personally believe 00Q (Altho i dont really like this) stand on the top of the chart IF based on my experience and knowledge watching all these Gundam series...


 * That's why I say that Turn A is arguably inferior compared to 00 or SEED's MS. The only thing that make it regarded is because of its moonlight butterfly. Without the moonlight butterfly, I think its just considered as a "so-so" Gundam ^_^. BTW, why are we talking about Turn A in this page? >_< Pronunciation 11:19, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, guess we just want to hear Sonic's personal opinion? peace... --Gundamfan99 12:08, January 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Haven't watched Turn A so I can't make a direct comparison but I have heard that Turn A can do some uber stuff and it's arguably holding the title for awhile. However when it comes to most powerful remember that the criteria you choose for measuring it may be important in determining the outcome and the criteria may not necessarily be just a simple battle between the two. This is why I used more vague and open terms like top two and top three since I'm saying that the Qan(T) may qualify for being second but may also be first depending on the subjective conditions one decides, because either first or second will be within the two range so to speak; and first second and third for top three, etcetc. The specific placing of course would be unto arguments and opinions depending on the criteria being used. -SuperSonicSP 00:12, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

@Sonic: You really do have my respect here. The way you explain thing is just too fair and not bias. I like. haha. --Gundamfan99 01:24, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding 00's quantization after research done
Regarding the quantization, its clear that 00Q do capable of quantize without the need to first form the portal, but of course with trans-am activated. Rewatched the anime, and in episode 10 of S2, its clear to us that 0-raiser main function is to stabilize twin drive system. And in the next battle, 00R are able to function at full power and at the same time shown its capability to quantize. In short, the quantize process happen thanks to trans-am + twin drive system, not something related with the 'black box' in gn drive. I hope im clear here, please rewatch gundam 00 and note the statement made in the anime, u will realize that the quantize process not even related with setsuna's innovator ability, coz the very first time 00R quantize in episode 12 of S2, setsuna is not awaken as innovator yet. His eye did not glow during the first time quantization, which shows us that the quantization is thanks to twin drive functioning at full power. And I can explain about the raiser system too, watch episode 17 of S2, Setsuna asked Saji to activate raiser system in order to use raiser sword. Clear to us that the raiser system is meant to activate raiser sword and stabilize twin drive system. So, raiser system does not contribute at all to quantization process. If you have question such as 'what about the black box', well, simple answer to that, the 'trap' inside the black box released when Aeolia died, and trans-am was useable after that along with Celestial Being received their Twin Drive plan made by Aeolia. Thats all the function of the blackbox. And it seems that quantization is the process enveloped in the twin drive theory itself. So, i hope all this explaination will be the answer to whether 00Q do capable of quantize or not without first forming the portal. Gundamfan99 01:25, March 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * You misunderstand, its pretty obvious that the physical ability of 00 Raiser's quantization (IE the physical quantum mechanics mumbo jumbo that makes 00 teleport) is caused by Trans-Am and Twin Drive System, there's very little doubt about that. The question here how Setsuna made it quantised when it did. Its important to note that unlike Qan(T) (who gets its own UI wwhen its about to do it), 00 Raiser as a machine was never designed with the ability to quantize, by that it means that Ian and co did not make the ability and intergrated into the mobile suit from a software perspective. Did the Twin Drive just magically decided to quantize at that point in that random time; twice? At just the right time to evade Revive's attack? Either way, the series does a poor job of explaining how Setsuna actually activate the quantization, because even he himself was wondering what happened the first time he did it.


 * Regarding Setsuna's QB activating it, you don't need to be a complete Innovator to start generating quantum brainwaves. Case in point are all those people in the movie who the ELS targeted in the movie, they are transitioning into Innovators and are generating QB (the ELS solely uses QB to know who to prioritize since they're attracted to it like ants are to sugar) but are not there yet nor do they have the eyes. According to 00V Senki, some only become complete Innovators after they awoken from their slumber (after being assimilated and entering a sleep state). That being said, I'm not a big fan of the using "blackbox combined with Setsuna's semi developed Quantum Brainwaves" theory either, since its too random and has a few requirements to even be true but there's very little explanation else to how quantization controls and activation happen in 00 Raiser. In Qan(T), all he did was press a few buttons before Qan(T) the mobile suit actually begun the process of starting then eleportation in 00 Raiser, we don't know how he activated it at any of the three points. -SuperSonicSP 05:55, March 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know what you meant there, and you misunderstand as well. Im not pointing out that 00Q could freely teleport, what i meant is the ability only, but how to trigger is as what you meant there, its not explained. And yes, twin drive just magically quantize 00R at that, rewatch it again and u will see it. Even setsuna dont know what happen. The quantization is made possible right after 00 is equipped with 0 raiser at where twin drive could function at full power along with trans-am. Therefore, its very clear Aeolia's Twin Drive theory is what include the ability. And Raiser system is purely for raiser sword, Setsuna's own order to Saji "Saji, activate the Raiser System" already a clear indication that Raiser system is not activated all the time until Saji play the role to activate it to use raiser sword as being shown in episode 17 of S2. Gundamfan99 06:08, March 13, 2012 (UTC)