Talk:GNT-0000 00 Qan［T］

Fanart
Although it might look official, the Image with the name "Quanta Basic Lineart" is not the official look of the Qan(T) but merely a fanart. I put it in the gallery and readded a screenshot of the movie trailer in the infobox. The file was posted in the AnimeSuki forum. Diabound00 18:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry. Okay then. Simant 20:08, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Can we get a consensus to not put fanart as page images please? This one has been reverted back and forth several times now, and it needs to be made clear to all editors --Balesirion 05:53, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I see nothing wrong with using fanart as long as its accurate and the artist has given permission for its use. Jak Crow 06:42, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * In general, I think the fanart gives a better view of what 00 Qan[T] looks like. Even though the shades of color are a bit off (the blue is too light), it seems to follow the movie screenshot almost perfectly, so I would say, if there is fanart for ONLY the movie Gundams, then put them as the main infobox picture as long as they are accurate to the movie screenshotGaeaman788 07:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I seriously object to the use fanart.Our job here is to be as accurate as possible to the true source,even if we don't always do that job well.The least we could do is get a picture right.
 * I mean Wikias already have a bad reputation of being inaccurate,its not something that can be helped easily,we're all human afterall.But I feel that at least.......at the very least.......we can get .......the right.......official..........image.
 * For the record,its very nice art and I like it even more than the official one but the problem is,that its not official.I don't mind it being in the galleries and labbeled as fanart,but in the main article image?That's seriously misleading.The fanart was released before anybody even knows how Qan[t]'s rear looked like,which was done in the last 24 hours or so.


 * Besides,we just got a new lineart recently that shows us the whole suit.Its black and white and maybe not as fancy or pretty,but its probably more reliable.


 * Just compare the recent released one and the fanart,they are differences.Call them minor if you want,but the point here is that we're dealing with a media that's unreleased.Going with fanarts is dangerous and does not help our credibility either.


 * In summary,we already have a lineart that is official and would be true to the official product.So why in the world then are we using a fanart?This isnt an anime released 1 or 2 years ago that we're all familiar with of,this is an upcoming product.Its better to stick to official material.In other words,accuracy over fanciness.We'll get better and official pictures later.


 * I don't like the CG pictures that we keep using either;not as main articles pictures anyways but the Ms in those are of media that's already out for a long time and people have seen those a 100 times,so I can live with it even if I disagree with that policy.00 Qan[t] was only seen once in a scene that lasted no more than 7 seconds.


 * I vote for removing it as the main image of the article.I just cannot accept using a fanart for something that's still in developement.Even if that fanart is very awesome looking.-SonicSP 18:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with SonicSP. We should remove the fanart and, at least for now, stick with the screenshots or the black-and-white scans. We all should be patient because in a month or so we will have official lineart. Diabound00 19:51, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you Diabound00 and SonicSP. Yes, I did say that the fanart gives a better representation of what 00 Qan[T] will look like. However, looking at your argument, I do think that the fanart (in terms of the shield) is inaccurate, and that we really shouldn't treat 00 Qan[T] as some special page. Zabanya, Harute, and Raphael all use movie screenshots, so why not 00 Qan[T]? I don't think using the black and white images will do the mobile suit justice. Also, I don't like the usage of the CG art that's in the 00 pages, but they are very nice looking and unless we have a debate about whether or not we should use the anime accurate images, I am also willing to accept the CG art.Gaeaman788 20:10, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I took the liberty of changing the pics to the recently released lineart ones for 00 Qant and the other 3.I've outlined my objections to the fanart above already.But if you want more reasons,its because not only are the linearts official but they also are more comprehensive,whing us the rear view as well.For people who has not seen the suit before visiting the page it,they can get a good view of the entire suit.And they can guess the colors from the gallery pics. SonicSP 08:41, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, as long as fan art is as accurate with current information at the time, there should be nothing wrong with using it. No one has ever said the Qan[t] page is special, there just happened to be an early fan created lineart item. The item in question appears to be amazingly close to the official design (especially just eyeballed from a quick promo video). It wasn't misleading to use it, but if it will make people "feel" better, we can label fan created line art as 'conceptual based on available information'. At this time, if the artist were to revise his lineart to make it accurate to the official design, I would pick it over the current b&w image because it would be cleaner and in color and thus a better presentation.


 * Also, I've never seen anything that says that wikia has a bad reputation, so I don't know where that claim has come from. Jak Crow 16:01, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia and Wikias in general have a reputation to being inaccurate or unreliable.We're a good place to learn a series from scratch but not necessarily a good place for a referencing something.It can tbe helped based on the ways wikias work.Its a negative thing,but without this Wikias cant be as opene editing as it so it comes with the territory.SonicSP 15:45, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, that's pure FUD created by politically motivated people guilty of editing politicians' wikipedia entries to smear them. Studies have shown Wikipedia itself is as accurate and contains more information than Britannica. The only people I've ever found to slam a wiki have been found on free republic, where they'll say a wiki page dedicated to the periodic table is "leftist propaganda". Those that say wikis have a bad reputation say so out of self serving reasons and are obviously not the target audience here. Jak Crow 02:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

SEII Boklet
http://img63.imageshack.us/i/up420320.jpg/

This image is from the SEII booklet,due to release in a few days time.Anyways,like the last one,it reveals a "bit" mor einfo on the 4 movie Gundams.

Translated by Mike_S_6[ from animesuki forums,who also translate of other sidestory stuff for us,so thank her]:

Raphael 

''It is an MS that is observed to be an evolved form of Seravee Gundam, and is equipped with large weapons. It is entirely wrapped up in many mysteries. ''

Zabaniya 

''An MS developed with the same concept as Cherudim Gundam. It has a system wherein a large amount of arms could be put in the container at the back. ''

Harute 

''Has Arios Gundam's development model, but the transformation mechanism has been changed in a big way. The machine adopts GN Archer's elements. ''

QAN[T] 

''A machine that is an evolved form of Exia and 00. It is installed with the new system that is called "Quantum System". Starting with the sword bits, [okay, not sure with the next phrase, still looking for that cut-off kanji...] it seems to be furnished for a melee soldier.''

The translator is having some trouble reading some parts of the paragraph of 00 Qan[t],because there are some parts that are not clear or are obsucered due to the way the page was scanned.

I decided to included the ones for the other 3 as well,might as well right?Nothing particularly groudnbreaking other than stating what is mostly obvious,but the mention of the Quantum system is interesting.

-SonicSP 18:48, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

More Info from the SEII,this want is from the Prologue To the Movie video,which came with SEII,it featured the director and 2 of the mecha designers:

Translated by Mike_S6:

[PROLOGUE TO THE MOVIE] Movie News Flash Complete Explanation 

At the Expo: • The reaction in the hall ([to the] characters and MS) was happy, the news flash broadcast went well. • They thought that the staff who produced the images that weren’t going to be used in the movie in such a short time were amazing • It wasn’t Mizushima who decided they ought to show the video, it was a suggestion from the staff Mizushima: “Is it alright even though the movie designs haven’t been fixed?” Staff: “You/We should do it.” They* were very grateful for that attitude. {idk who the subject of this is or what exactly the poster means, my apologies} 

The design changes after the news flash was shown to the public–>present changes • The armament pattern[s] is/are still changing • The Expo news flash was a really early draft (proposal stage [designs]), but you couldn’t say that the impression of the designs has changed a great deal 

Ebikawa’s explanation: • The “Quantum System” (I heard “Quantum” from Ebikawa’s pronunciation) is a function that is tied to a/the main thread of the story (of course in the interview stage, he can’t speak about it at length, lol) • Qan[T] is an MS borne from 00 and Exia’s line • The new weapon is presently called “Sword Bits.” They comprise Sword Bits and hand-held GN swords (is this new too?). There are 7 swords, taking over Exia’s Seven Sword concept. 

Yanase’s Part 

Zabanya • A power-uped form of Cheridum. Since it [Cheridum] was completely destroyed in the TV series, it has the feeling of being rebuilt with the same concept (as Cheridum). • It was created with the suggestion that it should “carry a lot of guns” in mind • There are a lot of weapons in the container on its back • The container was designed to have the feel of wearing a shield. A few heavy weapons were designed. 

Harute • The transformation process evolved [some] from Kyrios to Arios, but because Harute is a zero[-G MS], I started by changing the transformation process • When the mechanical design was ordered, I was told that they[Mizushiima?] wanted weapons from the GN Archer to be incorporated. So it has a tendency toward heavy weaponry, mainly missiles. • The upper body of the MS has strong ties to Kyrios and Arios. The flight mode’s entire image has a different feel from what we’ve seen up until now • If we weren’t doing the movie, I wouldn’t have been able to present this transformation method/style (a calorie-like problem {idk what a “calorie-like problem” is}). Hearing this, Ebikawa, who was sitting next to him [Yanase], unintentionally let out a laugh/smile. 

Raphael • From the beginning the design was always going to be derived from Seravee, but I was told to make it something different when the design was ordered. • In the initial idea, Raphael had hands that could be used as a cannon when brought together. • As a result of trying to make Raphael’s cannon arrangement especially cool, it ended up like this. • Since the news flash version, the color* has completely changed (there are reasons for the change) {*color might not be literally referring to the color scheme–sometimes it’s more like variety/type but there’s 

SonicSP 15:49, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

New Updated 00 Qan[t] Colors
I posted a new pic of 00 Qant,I previously said it was from a new year event in the edit,but the source was actually Newtype January,so sorry about that.

Well,lloks like alot of fanart become obsolete.I think there some physical changes as well.

SonicSP 19:24, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Twin Drive Confirmed
At yesterday's new years,event there was an event in Japan concerning the movie.A new trailer was shoed there and alot of new info released.

Here's the link to the entire description,translated by Mike S6 from a blog from someone at the event: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2847446#post2847446

What I'm posint here is only a small part of the whole thing,but its the only one thats relevant to the Twin drive info.

Scene 4, Saji's VA on stage, then with Tieria's. Then Setsuna's come in and then he goes with Louise's. 

 After the VA's there's Tieria's scene. He talks about 00 Quanta. Then newsflash! Because he said that it is equipped with TD, it seems that Quanta will have it.</b> Then Setsuna's VA with Feldt's VA. Feldt sends Setsuna's QBW info to Ian etc., and Feldt says, "I wonder if this has become a world without strife." I was surprised because with this image, Feldt had short hair! Will she have short hair in the movie? Then Setsuna's VA comes in and talks about Neil, then Graham's VA comes in. They reenact the episode 25 of s1. The audience laughs every time he delivers interesting [or funny] lines. The audience got so excited when the "This is certainly love!" "Love?!" lines were delivered. [ah, and the audience just kept laughing at Grahamshido, must have been fun] Graham said that "I am no longer Bushido, I live as Graham", so he seems to be Graham in the movie. Surprise guest Yuna Ito comes and performs Trust you. </i </i>

the bolded statement is describing a section of the trailer.The thing was showed twice,once as fragments at the event[the rest are describing what the VA wer edoing on stage,yeah I loled at Graham's VA too]'' then one more timeas a Full Trailer,at the end of the vent with all the fragments combined. ''

''Some of you may question the validity of the entire thing,well for the record the same thing was done for the last trailer.The first movie trailer was showed at an event,the Gundam Big Expo,and until it was released months later in Special Edition 1,all we had was descriptions from ppl that were there,and the trailer released matched perfectly with the descriptions that had appeared.So tried and done before. ''

''It will probably be awhile until we get to see it for ourselves though,maybe not until SE III gets released. ''

They are loads of other info ridden this event has given us,most notably some stuff about Graham being a guest at Ptolemy[literally],as well as Setsuna sortieng in 00 Qan[t] screaming in pain because of a series of events[A Tiera clone appearing in Ptolemy and causing it,as well an attack by a GN Flag that forces him to sotie]''. ''

Sigh,I cant handle this,too much info to transcribe in regards to the movie.Even in terms of linking the translations.Sorry guys. SonicSP 10:49, January 1, 2010 (UTC) </i>

''So did someone change the coloring of Qan[t] or did an artist F' up in the pamplet? personally i liked the color in the trailer.KuroKirin 02:48 January 3, 2009 ''

''Oh they always change things in the production process. Especially when it comes to animation, color schemes are easy to change with computers. Wasabi 04:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)''

Question, shouldn't the main image for the 00 Qan[T] be switched out for the movie version colors instead of the designer colors? Since all the other 3 Gundams have normal colors

Someone Cleanup the Image or Wait!
That recent rough-edit addition made pic of 00 Quan[T] was horrible, we need someone with photoshop skills or simply wait until the official pics are released on the official site. Wasabi 04:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. (has not photoshop skill's either) :( Simant 18:37, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a happy bastard now, the new pics makes a world difference. Wasabi 02:39, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I made that pic..........-_-*go cries near a corner*[though I admit I have no photoshop skills].The current 00 Qan[t] pic is edited by me as well,though just had the picture split up and erased whats leftover of the other [they used to be one pic].However when I tried to post it after uploading it,the pic wont appear on my computer so I reverted the edit as I feared something was wrong since the pic wont appear.Though somebody did post it into the article later.

This one has 00Q on a white background so no biggie,almost had to do nothingthe other one was hard to take out from.This one is from Newtype February,the previous one from Newtype January.SonicSP 12:31, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

GN Drive on Shield!?
It is just me or i just spotted one of the GN Drive right under the shield? Wasabi 12:53, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its still unconfirmed as to exactly what that orb like thing is...it could either be a GN drive or a GN condensor.
 * Azkaiel 12:59, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

If this is the picture that you are talking about (http://superrobotwar.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/srwhotnews_nt2_00m1.jpg) then it is too small to be a GN Drive, all the more likely it is a GN Condensor. Besides, after what happened when Ribbons cutting off the 0 Gundams GN Drive in the final episode(http://randomc.animeblogger.net:8000/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2025%20-%20Large%2016.jpg), it would be unwise not to addresss this critical issue. All that is know at this point is that it does have the Twin Drive, a new one thanks to Teria and CB's scientists getting their hands on the Innovators designs. Since the nature of the imporvements made to the GN Drives are unkown, it could be concieved that the they are located in front and behind of each other, one in the chest area above the cockpit like Exia, and the other in the backpack connected to the shield. This is possible, especially when someone looks at the interior of the GN Drive (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/d/d5/GN-0000_GN_Drive.jpg), notice how most of it was designed for flight? That the GN Furnice and t

he TD Blanket are disk shaped? If the flight and manuvering abilities are now handled by thrusters in the body and limbs, similar to the improvements to the Exia R2, then they would have no need for the flight or exterior sensor components thus shaving off unneeded parts in order to fit inside the chest, this would confirm a hint made of a new form of GN Drive for the Qan(T). Weather or not this is true, the evidence is there enough to support this theory, and likely is the case as the logical location of the second GN Drive.Totem 00:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The GN-Drives Cones[the ones designed for this anyways] usually handle direct forward thrust,and much less on the anti gravitational mobility functions of the MS,that is handled by the rest of the body somehow.-SonicSP 10:41, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

HELLO? Has anyone looked UNDER the shield? It looks like some kind of thruster or exhaust, which would lead me to the conclusion of that 00 S7 big sword on one of the drives which has the same function as the Raiser is similar to the thruster under the shield. This would lead to the ability to Trans-Am and TABS. By the way, if the furnace and the blanket survived 0 Gundam's explosion, all they need to do is install that in a GNT drive from the ESF and then they got a REAL GN DRIVE going on.-Wabbiman

0 gundams drive was destroyed and that has been confirmed and we dont know if TRUE GN Drive Components mixed with Tau Drives Components would make a TRUE GN DRIVE with both Drives having different Components its unlikely that adding True GN Drive Components to Tau Drives would make a TRUE solar Reactor. AND as for 00 Qan T look on the page there its been comfirmed i think by SonicSP that its Actually a Cannon. Shindy00 00:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

This http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/GN_Drive_TauThis shows the information we have on the GNT Drives. Now there is an empty space where a TD Blanket should be at, but there isn't. As a result, it is possible insert a TD Blanket, and with some modifications to the drive, it should be able to harvest the baryonic matter. SIde note: If it is a cannon, does SonicSP have evidence?-Wabbitman

Yes actually look on the page i BELIEVE there is a link and plus ive seen it said in a few forums too. Shindy00 20:57, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I looked everywhere on the page and there is NOTHING about a cannon nor a theory. Besides, what idiot puts a cannon under a shield?! And no offense but those forums that said that were: 1) IDIOTS and 2) Speculating.-Wabbitman

From the looks of things, this theory is confirmed, the second drive is located on the shield. Now as for what it does when the shield connects to the back mounted drive is another story. Personally, I believe that when the two drives connect a burst function similar to the one used on the R2 is activated. PhantomSynchron 17:39, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Prototype?
In the units combat designation, why does it say that it is a prototype? What reference states this? Wouldn't it be the final product after the rough work was done on the 00-Raiser? Especially after the battle with the Reborns Gundam when Celestial Being recovers and repairs 00, modifies it to suit Setsuna's transformation into an Innovator, performed the tests for the GN Blaster (with a GN Condensor inplace of the destroy GN Drive). Wouldn't the GN-0000GNHW/7SG 00 Gundam Seven Sword/G technically be the prototype, not the 00-Qan(T)? I mean, shouldn't the 00-Qan(T) be a full unit? Or is someone just speculating on a units designation or did someone just copy and paste 00 Gundams stats on the 00-Qan(T) page. Totem 23:49, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well,its mentioned in the 00 geneology that its developed from the 00 Raiser+GN Sword III,but small issue I guess.Yeah,I'm pretty sure its speculation but this wouldnt exactly be the first time we've put a speculation on the designation type,its been done a lot of times before so I usually don't bother with them too much.However,personally I believe that the basis of calling a prototype would be from the new Quanta System,though I'm not really advocating either for or against the prototype being there,although some of the things implemented in Quanta comes from new released data by Veda;which may include the Quanta System and such.

It would not be the only speculation on the page anyways,they are many more speculation in the article.A bit of an eyesore to me but not much can be done.They'll be updated and corrected when we get the info for them nearer to the movie's release.SonicSP 06:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's also the issue of whether or not anything is going to happen after the movie. I don't think it's really a prototype per se, it's most likely the pinnacle of CB's MS development. BTW I switched the CGI art for the official lineart. And has anyone noticed how much Qan[T] looks like Reborns Gundam?Gaeaman788 17:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I have also noticed, now with the new colour scheme and redesign. In all likelyhood the reason behind it is because the remains of the Reborns Gundam was one of the spoils of war that Celestial Being made sure to acquire. The trouble it gave 00-Raiser aside, it is also the only other machine with the Twin Drive, and a source of data for Celestial Being's scientists, examining the refinements the Innovators did to the design and develop for the 00-Qan(T) (and to prevent it from falling into enemy hands).Totem 07:30, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

hey SonicSP, the page says that QanT is a prototype right? this is confirmed????Shindy00 00:34, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Artist Links
Several uncredited artists works are being used here and no one bothers to link to these artists. Can we please start doing that? Jak Crow 16:17, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Use Anime Color Version?
Now that we have our final "anime color" lineart that the anime will be using, shouldn't we use that one instead? The designers colors that is currently ARE lighter than the final anime colors,as it has with Exia and 00.-SonicSP 10:32, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

It Should Be "Close Quarters" Only
The description that keeps coming for 00Q keeps mentioning that its very close quarters based. The Special Edition II manual should be one example. Since that seems to be the stated emphasise, it really should be close quarters only. "All Purpose" is very misleading and suggests that it specialised for everything which is possible but I think the armament and the notes speak for itself.-SonicSP 13:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Updates on 00 Qan T
ok, I cleaned the page on 00 Qan T and deleted all the unless info so now I need to get the reference (sources) part done. If anyone can help that would be AWESOME.Shindy00 16:03, May 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * http://www.gundam00.net/ms/index.html
 * It seems the website got updated. Also,00Q's page says this which toysdream from Mechatalk translated:


 * 型式番号の「Ｔ」は、ツイン（ＴＷＩＮ）を意味する. 
 * 純粋種のイノベイターとして覚醒した刹那のために開発された機体. 
 * 搭載された太陽炉は、ツインドライヴシステムのために新たに開発されたものである 


 * "The 'T' in the model number means 'TWIN'. 
 * This machine was developed for Setsuna, who has awakened as a 'true breed' of Innovator. 
 * The solar reactors installed were newly developed for the Twin Drive system." 


 * What I find most interesting here is the plural usage of Drives.


 * Also Shindy, lookup at the SEII booklet parts of this discussion page, I've placed some older scans and translations there. By the way, I may reply late to things, I don't come here everyday-SonicSP 06:54, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey SonicSP, what exactly did you want me to do on that SEII part did you want me to find those missing words cause if so ive found the full translation of the booklet(dont ask me how it took like 7hrs XD ) but i wont post this info until i know if thats what i should post
 * Shindy00 04:21, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

New Twin Drive System?
Just thinking, If there is a new GN Drive to be used by the new Twin Drive System, I think it will somehow be like Two True GN Drive combined

and by what I can see is that if you will pull of some parts of the Old True GN Drive and combine it, It will somehow look the Qan(T)'s GN Drive. (just to let you know you forgot your Signature)

Well if you look at the above post it says on the offical site that "the SOLAR REACTORS(pural important point) developed for it were newly developed for the Twin Drive System." That means there IS TWO. What I want to Know is Exia's Reactor!!!!!!!

1. did CB create 1 drive to use with Exia's or

2. did they make 2 new drives

Shindy00 19:45, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, according to Mark Simmons, the guy who translates it. There is neither a singular or plural indication on the sentence unlike in English. Japanese does not have plural or singular indicators like English and need to directly state the number I believe. He did put a the plural indicator there, but he admitted his fallacy in the translations by using plural when writing it in English when I questioned him on the plural issue, I too was intrigued with the plural thing and wanted to him to confirm it to me.


 * Essentially, the best translation goes like this actually:


 * "The solar reactor(s) installed was(were) newly developed for the Twin Drive system."


 * Yes, its extremely vague in terms of no of Drive created but such that's how it is.


 * Considering the fact that CB lost only one Drive and will only need 5 to cover the 4 MS main team, creating one seems to be the likeliest option, especially given how difficult it is to make an Original Drive. However, no confirmation is given of anything this statement does not help us to the answer since it can be interpreted as a plural or singular in Japanese; other than the fact that CB made at least one new Drive. Something that we've guessed for a long time given the new Jupiter project that they launched after S2 as mentioned in 00V Senki Chapter One.-SonicSP 00:15, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank GOD you confirmed that. Well we do know 00 QanT will have two GN Drives, so they must of either made just one and tuned Exia's Drive OR they Made two new ones, and YOUR right SonicSP it does take a considerable amount of time to make a True GN Drive plus its only been 2 yrs so i really do doubt that they made two. cool thanks for the update. Shindy00 22:13, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Another interesting item of note is the physical appearance of the 00 Qan[T] in regards to its drive system. While 00 Gundam employed two "standard" external drives, it would appear (pure inference) that 00 Qan[T] uses two "in-line" drives with one visible in the chest and the other visible in the back plate, meaning the drives are placed back-to-back with the "front" parts of the drive visible on the front and back of the Gundam. If this stands true, then this could account for an increase in efficiency and easier synchronization between the drives if they are placed in-line. Arvis1804 15:19, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * He's got a point everyone! Shindy00 20:55, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The HG kit shows that the GN drive in the shield can pop out and the shield can move into place to connect it to its backpack. So Arvis1804's post should be correct. Must be that these 2 drives can connect when ever Setsuna needs the extra thrust.Spartan Ambose 10:42, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Use Designers Colors Version?
As the other 3 Gundams from the movie are using them, shouldn't Qan[T] get the same treatment? -Godred01 15:36, June 28, 2010


 * Well, is there a pic of 00 Qan[T] with designer's colors version? [User:Bronx01|Bronx01]] 14:46, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I searched a bit and found out that the article did use them months ago. I returned them to the gallery section (though I wouldn't be surprised if they removed them in favour of the fan art again) Bronx01 15:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, so who's gonna put these in the infobox in place of the anime version pics? -Godred01 17:05, June 28, 2010


 * Done. —AscendedAlteran 16:42, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did we ever held the discussion on what version to use for these pics, whether the Designers color version or the Anime version? Although I'm personally fine with either. -SonicSP 02:36, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The consensus was basically that we're using the Designer Ver. for the other 3 movie Gundams, so we should use the same version for the 00Q for consistency if nothing else. I personally prefer the Designer's Colors: there's more detail and the gloss of the Anime Ver. annoys me for some reason. —AscendedAlteran 04:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * For me, I strangely have a problem with the coloring of the designer linearts with the exception of Ebikawa's 00Q; of which I've always will dislike the anime version and like the designer; but the opposite is true for Yanase's linearts for me. And strangely, this is true for me for all the anime generations from Exia&co, 00&co and 00Q&co. Although the designer lineart looks supern in black and white linearts that they sometime potray in books and in the MG/PG manuals. Not that I have a problem with using them for the article at all since I still like them, I'd pretty much take them over the 3d images anyday personally.-SonicSP 17:27, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I personally think we should switch Qan[T] back to the anime colors and put the designer colors down below since they're not anime accurate.Gaeaman788 18:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * I personally think we should switch Qan[T] back to the anime colors and put the designer colors down below since they're not anime accurate.Gaeaman788 18:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

HG 00 Qan[T]
There are now new scans for the HG 00 Qan[T] and it's new uses for it's GN Sword Bits. http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/07/hg-1144-00-qant-new-images.html

I can see the Sword Bits can be attached to the GN Sword IV to become a Buster Launcher or a Buster Sword. Is this official?Duo2nd 01:18, July 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Mainstream model ad pics like these are usually based on their real abilities. The pics certainly look like the usual advertising pose pics that they use. So yeah I do think its official- SonicSP 02:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * i agree with sonicSP hey here is a question does the model show the location of both GN Drive?Shindy00 17:01, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we can call it a Buster Sword.-Wabbitman
 * I think we can call it a Buster Sword.-Wabbitman
 * I think we can call it a Buster Sword.-Wabbitman


 * Wabbitman, please sign your comments. You can do so by typing ~ 4 times at where you want your name to appear. To shindy, no the model does not seem to show the location of the Drives; not anything we can suspect directly anyways. -SonicSP 17:23, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you Sonic Sp. :D Wabbitman 00:43, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you Sonic Sp. :D Wabbitman 00:43, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

00 Qan(t) weapons
Anyone else notice that the Qan(t)s gn sword 4 looks alot like a keyblade?


 * I personally do not see the resemblance that much. By the way, please sign your comments it would be easier to to diferentiate, who is saying what.-SonicSP 14:23, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

actually SonicSP i think he says that cause of the guard and hilt of the sword.Shindy00 22:50, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

More info on GN Sword Bits and GN-Sword IV
http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/07/mg-rezel-others-from-hobby-japan.html And let me guess......it has a LOT OF combinations too. OWO Duo2nd 02:07, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Its also called the GN Sword V apparently.-SonicSP 21:22, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't really see any other combinations, but that's probably my limited imagination. —AscendedAlteran 05:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

REALLY sonicSP what happened to GN Sword IV than????Shindy00 22:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

No idea, but odds are that they would explain it in one of the side stories. Either that or they're going to bring in something completely unexpected in the movie. PhantomSynchron 16:58, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No info on where the GN Sword IV is, it could be used some other place like a prototype weapon or something. A possibility is that its on the 00 Raiser Repair, but thats just one idea I've heard people brought up. We have no concrete info on where it is for the moment but I imagine we will find out sooner or later. -SonicSP 22:42, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone catch that Quan[T] Manual?
Did anyone have a chance to get a proper translation of that manual booklet that may explain a few things about our long debated Gundam? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/4841857085_28058a0f1c.jpg

Wasabi 04:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the weapons are going to most likely be translated into english text, so if we could get a sufficient zoom in on the instruction booklet that would be of grat benefit. And someone who can read japanese katakana and translate it to english properly would help Gaeaman788 06:16, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is the better image version of it, but even this version is not good enough to make a translation off.

However, the visuals does suggests that the Drive is located on the backpack and below the shield respectively. Specifically the kana labelled "4" has a picture of the backpack and the cylinder object below the shield beside it. However, I seriously think we should refrain putting it in the article until we get confirmation by text translation. -SonicSP 15:41, July 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * The HG 00Q manuals says that the Drives are located on the back and "left shoulder" according to makubex32 from animesuki. The text part labelled "Twin Drive System" (in japanese writing) has two pictures right beside it, the 1.backpack and the 2.cylinder object underneath the shield; I'm guessing the latter is what the manual meant by "left shoulder" since 00 gundam's Drives are described in the exact same way (despite not actually being its "shoulder").


 * In sum, the translated text from the manual plus the two pictures beside 4."Twin Drive System" written in Japanese pretty much nails it; the Drives are in the backpack and in the shield.


 * 00Q also possesses a mode in which the shield swings to the back and the "shield cylinder" and "backpack" are connected together as showcased in the assembly section. -SonicSP 17:44, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Change 00 Qan(T) to 00 Qan[T]
The title of page is wrong. This seems to be something that no one has sorted yet!

Godred01 22:06, 03 August, 2010


 * Now, i could be wrong about this, but i think '[]' are special chars, and can't be used for the title. Hence the ''
 * ~ Azkaiel 21:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Godred01, you must be new, because that was discussed nearly a year ago. Wikia has a coding conflict and that's why (T) was used over [T]. You should've seen how it was before, it was -T- :P

Wasabi 15:34, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Its the best we can do under the circumstances.

-SonicSP 17:13, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

2 New GN Drives?
Is there proof that 2 brand new GN Drives was used? I thought there was only a single replacement drive?

Wasabi 15:34, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

hey Wasabi i was just gonna post something like this, great minds thing alike huh anyway in my opinion i doubt they made 2 i think its just one seeing as it takes a time to make a new one. the model kit also may mis lead this cause they may say its 2 new ones but they may mean that just one but the exia one may get some upgrade or tuning to make it work with the new one. PLUS i think there may be deeper reasons why only CB wants just 5 drives they could certainly make more if they wanted too. just wait till the movie i guess.Shindy00 18:32, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * All the translators seem to say it. I've asked the services and received around 4-5, and all of them say it. Its from the Hg00Q as I've cited in the article when I made the edit. and around 3 of the translators are the residential ones that always does this for the community. And I understand the reason for the questioning, thats why I've asked a few to do it and asked as much as specifics as I can because I was sort of perplexed as well.


 * Here's one of them from one of my personally trusted ones, this one I requested it from her personally:


 * 'mike_s_6:


 * "It says two new drives developed in Jupiter, used for the TDS. One of the images point out where they are installed. And I think this would be the first time I'd say anything really useful to you about those manuals!"


 * <b>mike_s_6:


 * "Don't think about it too much, Sonic, it really says "two" in the Japanese text. Two pieces. This isn't a case of plural vagueness regarding the language."</i></b>


 * Before the Hg manual, the closest thing we had was the 00Q movie website profile. It says that "00Q has newly created solar furnace(s)" [the pluraility or singularity of the sentence is not specified; this is just the nature of the japanese language. Hence it can either be "newly created solar furnace" or "newly created solar furnaces"]. We mostly assume that the likelier case is one solar furnace created since CB only lost one, but unlike the webprofile, the HG seems to have specified it.


 * The specific nature or the circumstances, or how this will play into Cb's arsenal in the movie, we don't know. They may lose a Drive early in the movie to balance things to 5. For example, they may lose one of the Drives early in the movie, or they had may have been used in the contruction process of the new two (lol crazy theory), or even that last Drive being used on Ptolemaios. All we know from the HG manual is that the Drives onboard 00Q were newly created, and it has two.


 * On a personal level, I think the sentence in the article should be simplified as "the Drives onboard 00Q were newly developed on Jupiter". This would provide a more neutral and vague sounding concept, like the HG is apparently doing. I'm apparently still suspicious myself that two Drives were "created" but that doesnt mean that an existing Drive could not have been upgraded or "developed" there as Shindy's suggestion (my personal theory is that one of the Drives is actually used for the creation of the new set; but I cannot really use that in the article can I?). The sentence I suggested is vague and can convey either meaning of it turns out to be one or the other. But then again in the end the possibility that they just created a set of new specialised Drives is not so far of a stretch either.


 * All the translators seem to go with the two Drives developed on Jupiter (for the record, not all of them are from the same place/forum) so I'll go along with it. I cant just doubt them based on what I think or suspect since translation and conveyed meanings is their field; not mine and as such I will trust their judgment and decision.


 * -SonicSP 17:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Great, 6 GN Drives and one of them unaccounted for. Wasabi 17:39, August 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Exactly, those people over there at Sunrise and Bandai REALLY know how to keep us in suspense. They'd know we'd jumped over the HG 00Q manual like mice to cheese so they'd make it as vague as they could possible. On an unrelated note, the missiles ports on Ptolemy Kai are all missing from the lineart so it makes me wonder if its going to be more beam based and if that means..............a more potent energy source will be used to help the power supply.


 * I would lol it turns out that this is where "Dynames Repair" comes in. But yes, its certainly suspense.


 * -SonicSP 17:42, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Full Saber Pack Confirmed
https://superrobotwar.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/this-month’s-hobby-japan-magazine-2/ http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/08/pg-strike-freedom.html Now we know what REALLY happened to the GN-Sword IV. It was an optional armament for the [Q]ant all along. And to think the Tactical Arms is that good...Duo2nd 08:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

And just when I thought that Fridge Brilliance was in effect, that'll teach me to be a fan with ideas. - The Phantom Impact 21:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Two New GN Drives To Replace The Destruction of Exia and 0 Gundam's Drives
..............................now anybody notice anything wrong with the topic name? If so, then you have been keeping up with the facts so far.

I wanted to do this in the previous similar topic but its too important to pass up. According to the recently released 00V Senki Chapter 10, CB lost both GN Drives of 00 Gundam's Twin Drive System. Which means both Exia and 0 Gundam Drive was destroyed in the final episode battle of S2-25. It also specifically mentions that it was destroyed during the battle of the Innovators, which means it could only happen in one specific battle.

So why does this does so weird? Its because that in 00V Senki Chapter 4 specifically mentions that only one Drive was lost. S2 novel 5 that came out the same month also mentioned that 0 Gundam drive was history so that helps specify things.

Then this comes along and adds Exia's Drive to mix of casualties, well so much for consistancy. Just so you know, I had a few translators check both chapters, and both seem to say what they're known to say so there is no translation issue. What we have here folks is a retcon. However, this fits nicely with the other info that two newly created GN Drives for 00 Quanta. In fact, this chapter further confirms what the HG 00 Quanta kit has been saying so total number of GN Drives CB has is back to five, as opposed to the previous six before this retcon.

I will then give a brief history of the "state of GN Drives" so to speak after S2 ended from varios statements:

1.Last year, in an interview on S2 Official File 5, Mizushima the director mentioned that "no GN Drives was destroyed" due to an internal GN Field that protects them. However, in S2 Official File 6, he has specifically retracted this statement and mentiosn that the fate of surviving Drives is unknown.

2.Forward to around early this year, 00V Senki 4 chapter has Ian mention that they lost one GN Drive in the battle againts the Innovators. Finally they've given us an answer ever since they retracted the previous interview statement.

3.Then fast forward this month, they give us 00V Senki chapter 10, which mentions that CB lost two Drives lost which are those of 00's Twin Drive system and that the two newly developed Drives in Jupiter is to replace them.

And there you have it folks. -SonicSP 22:31, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

So we have a Retcon of a Retcon. I don't get it, I've been watching the battle between Exia R2 and the 0 Gundam over and over again and I can't see how Exia's drive could have been destroyed, unless it somehow got caught in the 0 Gundam's explosion, and if it did, then which drive did they use for the Seven Sword/G? - The Phantom Impact 00:13, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please sign your comments please. It helps when we're discussing.


 * Anyways, my personal guess is the beam saber that pierced Exia. Remember that Exia's GN Drive is inside the torso rather than the cone, My guess is that it must have done something to damage the internal Drivecore since the Drive Chassis of the 3rd Generation Gundams are the cylindrical object that Nadleeh released back in S1. Exia has that inside his torso. The pierce wound is pretty close to the middle, although it exits the body without touching the back cone. Eve4n if its not an explosion, it may be something enough to cause permanant damage to the Drivecore. There's something I want to expand too in my theory, but I'll wait for future reply before expanding my theory a bit more. -SonicSP 00:01, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Right, sorry about that. Anyway, I suppose that makes sense, but that still doesn't answer my question about the Seven Sword/G - The Phantom Impact 00:13, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

i think we should wait for the movie to confirm but it doesnt make sense cuz didnt ian turn put 1 gn drive and 1 gn condenser in 00 gundam after the battle of innovators

I don't thnk all 5 drives survived. I think that since Exia's and 0 Gundam's drives are the specific ones that make the 00 activate, Exia's drive survived while 0 Gundam's didn't. I don't know how Seraphim's drive could have survived a direct shot to the chest, but I'll theorize that the four drives (besides 0 Gundam's) were able to produce a internal GN Field to protect them from critical damage while 0 Gundam's drive couldn't. So, needing another drive to have 00 perform higher functions, like Trans-Am, Linda went to Jupiter to make another drive.Gaeaman788 02:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * @ unsigned name:Ian did put one Drive and one large Condenser replacement inside 00 Gundam Repair; there should be 3 perfectly fine Drives so there's nothing wrong with that at all. In a later chapter, they equiped 00 Gundam with two large Condenser Tanks and had it perform Trans Am.


 * @Gaeaman: The recent retcon information fits with the HG 00 Quanta statement that CB was making a pair of Twin Drive compatible Drives to being the number of Drives back to 5 while the retcon also mentioned that its the pair that belonged to 00's Twin Drive that was destroyed. Also, 00 Gundam can perform Trans Am with two large Condenser tanks in the sidestories. In the movie, 00 Raiser Condenser Type also performed Trans Am Burst.-SonicSP 17:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I must say I'm impressed SonicSP. This info is ligit, and it's complex! Well done! Wabbitman 21:41, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Just have one question.
Can sword bit shoot on its own like GN fang? やらないか? 05:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

No. "remote flying blades without any particle firing capability like GN Fangs" -- Rimus 08:43, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * It did not in the movie and no descriptions have popped up about it. Though I imagine the green material can help in the beam focus of the GN Sword V when used hence the combination modes.


 * They can be used as regular swords though, they have hidden handles in them. -SonicSP 17:25, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sakibure?
There was something about a MS named "Sakibure" that's been put into the notes section. Could someone please explain what this supposed MS is and what it does and why it's at the end of the series?Gaeaman788 20:26, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's what the upgraded 00 Quanta at the end of the Movie is named. -The Phantom Impact 20:40, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? I think SonicSP made the change, so believe he has the AotT novel, if I'm correct. Is there any more information on this suit besides the ame and its appearance?Gaeaman788 23:29, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have the novel but I got the info from somewhere (sakibure thing is not from the novel however). It's from one of the book that have the staff commentary released recently. Don't know the name of the book but I know that there was one released recently, where some of the screenshots have come from. Name of the staff who made the comment is Kenji Teraoka and paraphrasing; he mentioned that the MS that appeared in the epilogue is called the Sakibure and goes to describe that there is an ELS on/inside it's head. We believe that the MS in question is the modified 00Q that appeared in the epilogue.
 * By the way, I uploaded the modified epilogue 00Q image onto the gallery. If your allergic to flowers, I receommend staying away from it. -SonicSP 18:18, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Gundams use all their mentioned abilities
hey guys i've been reading this and that on the gundams and other Movie MS so i got one question.

Do all the Gundams Show ALL the Abilities and mean ALL of the Abilities that WE have listed on their repective pages?Shindy00 21:41, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nope. 00Q doesn't use it's Buster Sword or the Sword Bit beam saber. The hidden beamgun inside 00Q shield is of course also absent. Not sure about Zabanya or Harute. Raphael did not use GN Field or it's GN Bazookas. -SonicSP 01:12, October 15, 2010 (UTC)