User talk:Taikage

RIbbons Almark - Intervention At Eclipse
I just noticed the edits, and decided to put a discussion here.

About Ribbons sending Mr. Bushido, while not confirmed, was hinted out by Regene. Now, I know it's just a speculation on his part, but the dialogues in 00 seemed to be straightforward when you looked at it. So with Regene hinting about that, then not being confirmed or disconfirmed, lead me to believe that Ribbons actually dispatched Mr. Bushido.

About Nena not being employed, I watched the dubbed and she admitted on screen she worked with Innovators that time. Now those in japanese language might have the other way around, but I'm not sure. Is that the case here? I hope you shed light onto this.

Bronx01 00:56, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Need to Bring Back Weapons Descriptions
I'm not a fan of multi layered pages of redundant info either,but I think we need to bring the weapons section back.Not all weapons are the same you know,they all have their unique individual characteristics,it doesnt have to be long winded or complex,just enough to describe the weapon in general and special characteristics on it.

I'm not just talking about 00 Raiser,I'm talking about all AD articles that had the weapons section totally removed.

If you want an example,take the GN-X Beam Rifle.Did you know that the Long Barrel adds range to the weapon itself but reduces the rate of fire?[Making a bit of a long range non sniping rifle].I click on the long range rifle section and it just leads me to the GN Rifle section of the series,which tells me little about this uniqe feature that aonly available to the Original GN-X Rifle.

What about the Ahead Rifle extension?It doesnt increase the range,this one actually increases the power and it adds some Condensers on the side as well.Dont forget the GN-Sword II,where is the info on its beam rifle abilities,i>[it has a few different shots availale to it],or its larger than average beam saber size from the weapon.These are just some of the info that I founfd to be well....missing and its sad because some of these features arent just regular features that applies to all,and linkin them to the listed weapons page does not do them justice whatsoever,hell the GN Sword section in the AD weapons section is empty!!!So literally I think the site have 0 to little info on GN Sword series now.

All of these info.......lost and blank,nowhere to be found.I know you're not related to this issue,but I'm simply bringing it up to you,because this trend concerns me.-SonicSP 11:12, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you please review the discussion page for Shared Weapons, I explore the idea of features specific to a particular weapon being incorporated into the Technology and Characteristics segments.
 * Using the example of the GN-X and its beam rifle, I would propose the following solution:
 * Replace the link under Optional Equipment with simple text.
 * Then add a passage to the effect of
 * ...Gundam Throne series; the overall tech was based on reversed engineered CB GN-tech. The GN-X is the first production mobile suit sporting beam weapons a pair of GN Beam Sabers and a GN Beam Machine Gun. The GN Beam Machine Gun sacrifices accuracy at range in favor of rate of fire, however ground crews can attach a longer barrel which reduces the rate of fire but increases accuracy at range. This upgrade by no means gives a GN-X sniping capabilities but does allow the pilot reach out and touch the enemy.
 * The GN-X series intented mission was that of a highly manuverable, high speed combatant.
 * This was what I was what I always intended. --Nkuzmik 15:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's certainly better than nothing.Personally,I do wish the description is a bit more specialised in a section.As in long barrel mention for example under the GN-X rifle section in under the actual "Beam Rifle".


 * But now,that we have indeed gotten a good transcript of alot of the intruction manuals,I guess we can mention more specialised things about them.Of course,in my opinion most of the CB Gundam's weaponry fall under this category,


 * Of course,if something really is just plain,most probably something from the sidestories,we can always just stick with a line like An ordinary beam rifle with a link to the weapons page.


 * Oh and I know the GN-X dont have the sniping ability but I guess I am sort of comparing the upgrade that of a sniper rifle,specifically the sniper rifle II which fires it long range mode with the barrel attached,just a small comparison like thing.They are far different from each other in ability-SonicSP 16:45, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Episodes
Meh. User_talk:CrusaderRedG21. We got some cleaning to do. Simant 19:44, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Preemptive (Allelujah's page)
I searched before (while back) what it meant, and it says to attack before the enemies' anticipated attack (Of course, I'm just para-phrasing). And with that I wouldn't think what A-Laws did at Langrage 3 is preemptive in nature. It's more of purely suprised attack than preemptive. Look it back if you want. Bronx01 21:56, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

preemptive strike - to gain the advantage of initiative and to harm the enemy at a moment of minimal protection, for instance while vulnerable during transport or mobilization.

Perhaps we have different definitions, but preemptive war have always been about hitting the other person before they can properly respond, this was textbook definition to me. Wasabi

It's more like 'before they can do harm' than 'before they can respond'. Preemptive strike is given to an attack that prevent an imminent attack form the enemy. The enemy should have hold some threat that the other team wants to stop.

Simply being a threat in general, broader sense of view, doesn't make an attack against an enemy preemptive; it needs to be specific. In this case, A-Laws were just doing some mop up operation. They didn't attack Celestial Being because they received an info CB would do something around that time. Bronx01 14:12, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Redesign
Check my proposed redesing for the Main Page and provide me with some feedback. Marcos Taracena 04:10, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's just fine, no objections. A definite improvement over the previous design. Wasabi 07:52, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Imaging Program for the 3D Models of Gundam 00
Hi, taikage i dunno who to ask so i guess i'll ask you but do you know what program is being used to generate the 3D models of the Gundam 00 gundams that are used on this wiki?TallgeeseIII 05:35, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I personally don't know, but i got the pics from a Japanese CG artist. Take a look yourself http://zefaiblog.blog4.fc2.com/ Wasabi 07:53, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Kagazara: Hi i'm KagaZara and i just got ur message. I'm new here so maybe i had some mistakes at editing character file. So that i really hope you'll help and introduce me!!! (http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kagazara)

Kagazara: Hi i'm new here so i dont know much at editing character file, i hope you will help me alot!

My user page:(http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kagazara)

I know zefai but i was wondering if u know what they use :P

Re: Recent Edits
I think its just that I got other things to do in between the edits and I still tried to push these things (Ribbons/Allelujah articles) to finish. I don't think I'm stress or anything, maybe my quality just reflected how much divided my focus is at the moment.

I'll look again at my recent edits. Though, I hope this isn't too much to ask, but it'll be really helpful to point out some parts that you think I started to lag/suck in quality/grammar.

Thanks for the concern. Bronx01 14:46, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Please stop deleting the line about the Director saying that Graham Aker

will play a major role in the movie. It is just a RUMOR so it's not yet official,

I would not place that Rumor there if the section is not titled "News & Rumors" right?

Insertion Request
I'm bad at these things, so I'm hoping you could do it.

I have these images from the Gundam 00V Gundam Weapons sourcebook released in recent weeks. These pics [] comprised of the Conventional MS developement chart released in that book [aka one out of the two charts given in that book]. I was hoping you could insert this chart in the AD Mobile Weapons page, since there is another developement chart there already of CB's origin for the most part from another source [PG 00 Raiser manual]. The book gives us CB's developement chart also but that only mainly repeats [there's a link of them of the AD Mobile Weapon discussion, if you want to take a look] what has been said in that chart. But since this 2nd chart this one composes mostly of Conventional MS developement which has not been visually represented to us before, I'd think it would be rather fitting to add them into the page. Of course, since I'm bad at this, I'm asking you to do it instead.-SonicSP 18:37, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'll do it when I have time, currently i'm just swamped with real life matters. Wasabi 01:12, April 16, 2010(UTC)

Oh, okay dude. Take your time. Seems like a delicate matter of page design, and I'm not really feeling like I can do it properly, otherwise I would have done it myself. Not to mention it is a pretty large image.-SonicSP 17:47, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

It would be best if we got someone with the entire page vs split into 2. I was the one who loaded up that Gundam evolution tree myself and that pic was just as big. See if you can find a translated version of that, it would help a world more for the other editors to know what they're looking at. Wasabi 21:08, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

HQ Linearts
Using a high quality pic of the mag scan that I have acquired, I've made new HQ versions of some of the linearts including 00Q rear,Zabanya rear, harute MS rear, Harute Fighter front/rear, Raphael front and raphael rear. Already posted them on the pages. Hope these quality suits what your looking for. I didn't bother doing most of the front lineart pics because we already have them of high quality from a previous mag. The exception here is raphael front, because the first mag's high quality had that black box over its leg. Since this is from the 2nd mag, its the first front raphael HG lineart.-SonicSP 19:02, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Photoshop Assistance with AD MS Chart
Hey guys, SonicSP already uploaded pics of the MS chart of the opposing side; there's a slight problem I would like some assistance on. Do any of you guys have a either a better pic or photoshop skills to match up the 2-halves of the image into a single pic? []

Wasabi 17:19, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

About 00Qan T's
ok I SUPER CLEANED 00Qan T's page and got the source thing down and there is some things about HARUTE.

BUT ill get to what i was going to tell you well i realize that everyone on here is geting pretty busy with life so if you would like i can do anything about GUNDAM 00 that you guys feel you won't have time for cause im graduated and i dont have college for a while so i have ALOT and i do mean ALOT of FREE time on my hands so just let me know.

Shindy00 23:27, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

You can volunteer for that chart thingy on top^^^ since you said you have background in photoediting. I'll give you the pictures later.

Unrelated.......but I miss the old picture system where we just click and get to a new page, click again and see a BIG PIC-.--SonicSP 20:48, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

hahah SonicSP you are so right on the old pic system but OK i can do the picture thing but OK should i make a chart for each Faction like Example: the ESF, UNION and etc.

Plus Taikage asked me to do some of the characters so i can do that too. well just let me knowShindy00 03:49, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Beside Pain
At first, I agree with the merge/deletion of the page. However, recent developments in 00I suggest that they are not the same person; they only share memories. And they have separated body during the last chapter.

I haven't edit much into the profile (CrusaderRedG21 covered most of them), though I suggest to keep the page for now, until 00I (English trans) could clarify more into this. --Bronx01 13:19, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

They have indeed changed bodies. Beside downloaded himself into Leif's body when he activated the 1 Gundam in 00I. He got Leif's body injured, and then downloaded himself into another body that is the exact same copy. Now they are physically separate people again and they are definitely not the same person. If it helps, the official 00I website have separate profiles for each of them. So I think we must keep it separate as well. -SonicSP 20:56, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Those HQs pics of Movie gundams
ok im just about done with them, (their front views anyway) but tell me should i also get the back views and stuff, also any pic of 00Qan T :(

btw where should i post them exactly (i know on their pages but like where, on their gallery pics or the main one) ? Shindy00 19:31, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

You're basically replacing the previous images with a HQ one. Descartes' MA/MS has yet to be added, so please make that a priority. As for anything with a pre-existing pic, just upload over the previous ones. And yes, let's have a front & back for all of them if possible. Take your time, nobody is rushing you. Out of curiosity, you a guy or girl? I only ask because of the Shindy part of your SN, but that's not relevant matter. Thanks for your efforts. Wasabi 03:36, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

HAHAHA XD, im a guy lol shindy is actually a nickname for me so it sticks, But OK cool i was worried that you guys will want them as soon as possible ........OK then ill get the rear views to and damn i completely forgot about Descarte's MA but i do have the image saved well ill update you ALL on the pics and my progress, and PLUS there isnt to much to say about Andrei S, so but just the stuff in the seris and its alll covered.

Sorry SonicSP, haven't really noticed. I mean when you minimized them to 270-320px, you can barely noticed the difference until you open them out and blow them up to full size, however Descartes' MA is still missing a pic, can you add that in?

Wasabi 21:07, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

p.s. SOMEONE find the Qan T pic lol Shindy00 23:24, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

I've posted HQ pics of the 4 main movie MS [both front/back plus transform harute and replaced in articles] a few weeks ago........didn't anyone notice? -.- I cropped them from a HQ magazine scan.

I did a previous LQ version before that and Taikage said "they will suffice until better pics come" in the Zabanya discussion page. The moment I was done with that, I found an HQ scan and had to do the whole thing again [crop/backgrounderase/etc] with the HQ version and I've posted them back in the articles again. They appear small in the articles but they'll show their differences when viewing them in full screen; when compared to the previous LQ front/back version I did. Although I think some front LQ linearts before that were done by someone else. The weaponless 00Q is not mine though I posted it here, I requested that one from one of the forums I usually visit as a request although I'm think I did the rear one.-SonicSP 21:00, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Update: ok i got ALL the front views of the gundams done working on the back, Harute was difficult but i finally got it. As for that MA for descartes im working on that but in may turn out to be fairly small, any of you guys got a bigger pic. BTW how big do you guys want them cause hell when i did them they were the size of my page, i can bum it down though. I STILL can't find the HQ Qan T pic though........ DamnShindy00 00:36, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

What's the prognosis on that pic of GNMA-Y0002V Gaderaza? I thought you already finished and posted it up already. Wasabi 18:28, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

sorry dude but ive been working on the Gundams, i guess i got to caught up with them to really care about the MA i know you said i should make it a priorty. Wasabi ILL GET it done tonight and post it either later tonight or in the Morning!!!!!!Shindy00 19:22, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else?
Hey man i know i probably should of asked you Sooner but i kept forgeting uuhhh do you know any REALLY good places that you look for info (sources) i really just been browsing and it would be nice if there are a few really good ones people go to alot thanks.Shindy00 17:45, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I tend to just go to the animesuki forum, usually the info there is always fresh (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=85479&page=270); I usually don't bother citing stuff though... i tend to leave it to the hardcore guys that demands facts and validation deal with it. Usually people in the know-how don't pester me with facts as I'm a long term editor here and people know i don't BS with facts. Still, since you want to, look over the references that's been pre-made, it should give you something to look for.

Wasabi 18:28, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Shindy, other than the one Taikage posted, you may also try this one:(http://z11.invisionfree.com/gundam00/index.php?s=31b61342439bc535258405202083515b&act=idx)-SonicSP 18:21, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hey man I've been anyway for a few weeks to japan ( :-D) had a blast im back now and i was just wondering if there is anything that needs to get Done Aside from me doing Wong Lui Mei, ooooh plus sorry if nothing on her got updated i left like right after, but anyway let me know thanks. Shindy00 21:01, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

About User: BlitzGundam
Is there anything we can do about him, in light of his recent deletion of the infobox on the ZGMF-1000/A1 Gunner ZAKU Warrior ? Its not the first time he's gone about vandalizing pages. Kuruni must be getting annoyed, having to clean up his vandalism.

~ Azkaiel 05:54, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Usually we find the admin and ban the guy for messing around. Usually I would give stern warning first, but if the person willfully causing havoc, we can take more immediate action. Find the admin and tell him about it; I forgot who's the admin though.

Wasabi 11:18, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Why Does A Lot of CB MS Have GN Arms?
Can I please know why a lot of Celestial Being suit's have GN-Arms listed as compatibility including the 0 Gundam? Do you have the source that states this to be the case? Because I'm starting to see it as an eyesore because even Exia and Dynames had to have specialize GN Arms designed for them. The Assault Container I understand, but the GN Arms seems to be quite MS specific and we can just list their compatibility because they "fit" physically. Optional equipment must be listed on what was designed to be possible or at least usable in possible plan.

If we want to be really liberal about this, we can just place ANY GN weapon and place it on any mobile suit just because they can be used. For example, listing the GN Pistols and GN Hand Missile as Astraea F's optional a year ago would be wrong since even if they are usable we have absolutely no connection between these specific weapons and the Astraea F. But listing them after the new Astraea F is seen using them is not because even though they belong to other Gundams mainly in design, these weapons actually have a connection with Astraea F now in terms of presented media.

Here's an example, the HG Kyrios manual says that the "Tail Unit" as its called [not to be confused with the Tail Booster that appears later and is KYrios specific] can be used by the other Gundams as well. I'm happy to classify it as a optional equipment for the 3rd Generation Gundams then, because we have a stated source that specifies something that can possibly be used. If we do not limit ourselves to the 00 media telling us what can planned to be used with what, then it means we can literally go and say every MS is usable with every other MS's weapons, which is just bad because such is not a planned standard. With Astraea F finally have used the GN Pistols, I find it okay to list them as optional equipment since its became that way in the story and in the case of the Tail Unit, there is a statement of it being a more general versatility weapons for other Gundams but you cant say the same for the GN Bazooka, GN Submachinegun, GN Sniper Rifle, etc. Anybody can take and use these weapons, we know this to be very possible due to GN Flag's Throne Beam Saber and Astraea F using 3rd Gen Gundam's weapons which tells us the versatility of the GN weapons but we don't list them [bazooka, submachinegun, sniper rifle, etc] as optional equipment for "anybody" not because it isnt possible from a mecha standpoint but it never appeared so in a media story standpoint or at the very least a statement like in the case of the HG Kyrios's manual Tail Unit.-SonicSP 12:22, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I listed GN Arms to any of the other Gundams because it's not only an accessory, it's a support unit. With Gunpla models, GN Arms can dock with any of the Gundams, but I'm pretty sure you'll be against it because that's very argumentative. So I'm going to use support unit as my case for putting it up there. It can still fight along side with any other Gundam so long as it has a fully charged storage tank. If you feel that argument isn't acceptable, you're free to remove them as you're a long time editor and I'm confident in your reasons behind any revisions over mine. Wasabi 19:28, July 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay then, I see your point. Its true that they are support units but I certainly do not see them as optional equipment to Gundams that are not their generation or related to them, example would be relating the 0 Gundam to the GN Arms as a optional equipment when they have little to do with each other. While its true they can fight beside each other, I see little exact relation between the two to require an optional equipment mention since they cannot dock. You have a point in regards to any support unit being able to support anybody, but the problem with that is that there are already alot of support units out there from any generation and we cannot just single out the GN Arms among them, and we certainly cannot list every support unit from every generation just in relation to a specific Gundam just because of the possibility that they may fight alongside each other; IMO it should be done if they have a direct relationship like with GN Arms E and Exia or Arios and GN Archer.


 * In any case, I recently realised that there's not much of this as much as it used to be listed so its not that much of a problem anymore I guess, although I may remove any I find though. But I'd thought I'd bring it up to you first. -SonicSP 11:26, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Petition to change "CBS Celestial Being" to another name
Not the first time this has been brought up, but I'm not entirely sure what happened in regards to the last discussion in the Discussion page of said article. I've made my arguments there once although the discussion did not seem to continue.

But I was hoping to repeat it here again if you do not mind. I think it should be change to another name like Celestial Being (ship) or Celestial Being (colony). I was hoping if we can re-start the discussion on it. Here are the reasons why I think so:

1. Accuracy. While its true that we cannot get every word on Wikia accurate to what it actually is. I was hoping we can do so with a name at the very least. The problem with CBS Celestial Being is that thats just "not the actual name". I think a point that has been made of CB's ships or at least two of them have the CBS designation (was it you who made it? I recall somebody did in the last discussion). But the problem here is that no official designation; if any has been revealed for the Colony CB; thus naming it CBS Celestial Being is wrong because its not its real name; nor is it a neutral description of the thing like Celestial Being (ship) for example. Even if a designation is revealed, we're certain its "not just" going to be CBS(blank space); it has to be something right? While I find a GN-???? acceptable for a mobile suit in a media that is unreleased, like 00Q a long time ago for example. The problem with the CB ship is that its in a media that has been released, and there is no certainty that a designation number will be out because its something that is so much different class than any other CB ship before. Hell, it probably outsizes CB's normal asteroid colonies. Worst comes to worst if a designation is revealed sometime in the future; we can always change the article name to the newly revealed designation. But CBS Celestial Being in a designation form would be wrong almost certainty, because that will not be its model number either even it turns out that CBS is part of it. And this incomplete guessed designation would just look bad in the present because its not getting its correct officially revealed name.

2. Not only is it not accurate, but its not neutral descriptive either. A descriptive name (to avoid clash with the organisation) like Celestial Being (ship) or Celestial Being (colony) is as accurate as one could get of the actual name with the info we know so far. Personally, it does not matter much to be what descriptive word is chosen to me inside the bracket, as long as the model number is removed as that is what bothering me.

I realise that this is not going to be easy, as there needs to be some editing on some pages with the name change; hence why I didnt just go and change it. But I was hoping to bring this issue back up again by telling you because I really think it should be done. It will make us look better to the normal visitors; at least it will the most accurate name. Which I really do not think "CBS Celestial Being" is. Thanks for listening: I hope you will consider my suggestion. -SonicSP 11:26, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Masurao & Susanowo
reply --Bronx01 13:20, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

System Features
I might have missed something while I was away, but is the things in System Features in MS profiles written in point/bullet form now? I know I am slow, but I just want a confirmation. I might help out re writting some profiles when needed.

--Bronx01 23:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I put them in bullet point because the index boxes are getting bigger i'm trying to keep it on a minimalist level. In other areas, they were just repeated topics like Trans-Am and I thought it was getting repetitive. If you feel it's better to leave it in its previous form, you can change it back.

Wasabi 00:16, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Going to Watch the Gundam 00 Movie?
Hey dude, do you live in New York City like the NYC in the profile says? If you have not heard yet, on October 10th 2:00PM the New York Anime Festival will be showing off the movie with English subtitiles, so if you live nearby you should not miss the opportunity. -SonicSP 07:57, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I actually got a friend who works with a comic book store and offered me a temporary gig at Comic Con. I'll have to see what happens. I really want to go, but if I have to work at Comic Con, I couldn't catch it anyway. We'll see what happens in the next month. Right now I got serious money issues going down at home and finding work is a greater priority. I just hope even if i get a job, that i can at least head to comic con and see the movie.

Wasabi 15:11, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Better go work then if you can get one......times are bad these days. -SonicSP 18:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hell yeah it's bad, i studied for nearly 10 yrs into computers and because the profession is over saturated, the wages are inhuman. I can make more money babysitting than fixing a PC! Too bad there's no living in wikia editing. Wasabi 19:55, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I just watched the movie today. Man, it was pure awesomeness; mostly anyways. Maybe I'll do some edits later if I'm not lazy. -SonicSP 17:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Did Kuruni get blocked ?!?!?!
If that is the case, is there anyway to get her unblocked ? Cause she is a good editor and valuable source of information. It would be a great shame and pity for the wikia to lose her input. ~ Azkaiel 14:18, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Strange area to talk about that, but as far as I know, Kuruni was never blocked or banned. Did you try contacting her?

Wasabi 18:48, September 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well i was a bit worried when i saw this "15:54 (Block log) . . Uberfuzzy (Talk | contribs) blocked Kuruni (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 3 months (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked) (Terms of Use violation, threats, harassment"
 * Not sure if it mean the whole of the wikia or what...
 * ~ Azkaiel 19:36, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Message to newcomers
I really hope you don't flash the ban card everytime you see newcomers making mistakes XD. We don't have the power to do that. That can come out to somebody as harassment in some kind.

Anyway, just putting it up here. --Bronx01 13:51, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Bronx01, I don't know about you, but I don't have the patience to deal with overzealous editors. The last time an overzealous newbie editor showed up, it took me nearly 2 hrs to clean up their mess. Another one consistently kept changing stuff even though every senior editor reversed their edits. You personally dealt these types yourself. They just show up, edit stuff even though they were asked to take greater care of their edits. This is why I warn overzealous types about quality control. You showed up editing and I've only seen good stuff.

Currently there's a HK guy that annoyingly plagiarizes material and he pass it off as himself. He's less frequent these days so I don't bother with him, but you've seen it yourself from other newbies how they add stuff in that makes the page worse. I've given them chances to stop what they're doing and consider what they're editing. However most of the time, they continue what they're doing and ignore me until I put them on petition.

The power to ban is based on voting. I give the editor a stern warning first, but if I keep seeing bad edits, I will put that person on notice and ultimately on petition for ban/block if they continue to do more harm than good. If you've been following my msgs with several editors, then you know who I'm talking to and why I'm doing it. You don't see me having issues with any of the senior editors at all. The only weird time was with Kuruni, a 3-month ban, because I never had a problem with Kuruni and dude got blocked.

Now if you've been following me, I always enforce a 3-strikes or banned rule. If you feel I've been out of line, you're welcome to talk to me about it. However, you seen the most recent editors, they're not really editing, more like critiquing over tiny things.

Wasabi 15:43, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have no problem with warnings. I can understand what you mean. Though, looking at the other side, newbies can be a bit overboard most of the times. Flashing ban card in first warning can scare even the potentially good editors, and that's what I am worried about. That's all. --Bronx01 16:41, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I understand that, I was once like that too and i felt discouraged too, but I at least talked to the other editors to understand their feelings and try to improve on my own edits. I didn't become a decent editor over night, it took time. These newbies on the other hand makes no effort to talk back to me nor improve themselves as editors, they just ignore the msgs and keep going at it, that's what bugs me the most.

Wasabi 18:26, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * There was a time where I was one of those type of editors, always doing stuff I felt is right and to hell with the other people. I mean, I'm still like that sort of but I guess back then I just didnt had anybody to talk to since I was not that familiar to the wiki and how the community works.


 * How did I became one again, lol. Taikage came to animesuki and asked a good reference site for00 knowledge and I said Gundam Wikia........I did not know what he wanted a site for so that answer would have not been useful >__> but its true there are almost no sites that just hosts all the information. Then I sort of got tempted to join just so I maybe I can do something to help. We're not perfect especially when it comes to referencing for specific stuff or mentions but we sure are a good general read for those who want to learn.


 * I symphatise with Taikage's position though, maybe its not good to be so rough but it has to be done if we dont the whole place will fall into disrepair actually. We've done alot of edits over the time and we have to protect it too. At the same time though, we may want to be careful so we dont appear to be too strict or unreasonable.


 * Maybe we need like a newbie FAQ or something? Some general guide to what they should do to edit nicely and responsibly while over here? If they can engage with us more epecially in the discussion, then maybe we can get to know them a bit better. -SonicSP 19:37, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think there should be some kind of "Editor Rights and Responsibilities" contract or agreement established for all editors. I feel bad that Kuruni somehow got blocked :( and I hope she does return to the wiki. I think that it has alot of value for Gundam fans everywhere, that it has information that Wikipedia couldn't provide, and there are full profiles for the Gundam 00 MS/MA, something that MAHQ hasn't done yet. And basically it's editors like Taikage/Wasabi, SonicSP, CrusaderRedG21, Simant, Bronx, Shindy00, and others who make the wiki what it is and are slowly building it into a reliable source of information for Gundam fans. And, I think that this wiki is lucky that there aren't loads of "unregistrered contributor" people messing up information on the page.
 * But my point is that people will make bad edits sometimes based on incorrect information, observations, assumptions that are non-canon, and some translation barriers. Those are easily correctable. But there are people who may put biased writing on some pages, or just completely plagiarize from MAHQ. I think that a person who makes a bad edit once or twice just doesn't have experience in editing even though they may be a diehard Gundam fan. So instead of being very negative about the people who make one or two little mistakes, I think we should just revert the edit, go on the user page and explain why it was corrected. After all, the theme of the 00 Movie is "When will humanity understand each other?"
 * Actually, to go on a big tangent, I'm coming up with some...err rules/tips for being a quality editor.
 * The Gundam Wiki Editor's Contract of Rights and Responsibilies Ver. 1.0
 * As an editor, you job is to provide meaningful content that will contribute to the overall depth of information within this wiki.
 * An editor must not steal from, or copy/paste information from a website without giving proper credit.
 * Freedom of thought is encouraged here at the wiki, but be mindful of the edits that you create will be seen by Gundam fans.
 * The Gundam Wiki Editor's Contract of Rights and Responsibilies Ver. 1.0
 * As an editor, you job is to provide meaningful content that will contribute to the overall depth of information within this wiki.
 * An editor must not steal from, or copy/paste information from a website without giving proper credit.
 * Freedom of thought is encouraged here at the wiki, but be mindful of the edits that you create will be seen by Gundam fans.

Feel free to add on to this editors, newbies included! And also go to the "Plot Thesis" section in the discussion page for the 00 Movie, I've posted a few questions and curiosities I have about the movie that is free for anyone to post their opinion on before it comes out.Gaeaman788 02:12, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

What Happened To The Skins?
What happened to the skins? Today I come to Wikia and find it all white. And I really really dislike it.

The option seems to be gone, do you know anything about it? This blows man, I loved using the alternate skins. -SonicSP 20:42, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Dude I know! I loved the blue and white skin, I believed they called it the gamer's skin. It was easier on my eyes for those late night edits. We should find a way to protest! Taikage - the most insidious thing since root beer 21:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * From what I've heard, it seems to be a bug of sorts and they're on it to fix it. Its not done on purpose, its just the byproduct of a bug. Good news, its not policy. Bad news, OUR WIKIA IS STILL WHITE UNTIL THEY FIX THIS!!!!!!!!>__> -SonicSP 14:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * DAMNIT, THEY STILL AHVE NOT FIXED IT!!!!!!!!TRAAAANNNNSSSSAAAAAAAAAAMMMUUUURAAAAAIIIIIISSSSSSEERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!  -SonicSP 18:17, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Strange........I went to this Wikia and it automatically went back to my custom skin that I previously chosen. but when I came back here it reverts back to the default white background thing.

Oh no, now I feel sad if this is permanent. Is it just us then?-SonicSP 12:50, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed man, I miss my customized blue skin scheme. It was easier on my eyes. Who we need to sacrifice around here to get our skins back?

Taikage - the most insidious thing since root beer 13:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Bronx or Phantom IF NOT BOTH. The pagan gods will love them >__> hehehehe -SonicSP 19:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Gundam Profiles
Hello! I have a question: Where did you get this gundam profile pictures? Like THAT one or THAT one? -- Rimus 12:01, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Hey Rimus, they're from this site:

http://zefai.sakura.ne.jp/c/cg.php

Enjoy

Taikage - the most insidious thing since root beer 12:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Rimus 12:58, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

GNX_GN_Flag_II marked for deletion
I'd appreciate it if you don't feature an article requesting it be expanded and then attempt to delete any attempts made to flesh it out. If you don't like what is there, then rework it yourself.


 * Well, first of all, we didn't arranged the main page. Second, we hadn't update that page (most of it). I changed the improvement page, I hope you don't use that excuse to reason a speculation/delete page. GN Flag II didn't exist; it's a speculative name by the members of this wiki --Bronx01 00:35, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, first off, the page you're referring to had been moved off for several months already; it's a dead page. Those who are up to date with development of the pages know the "GN Flag II" is really the GNX-Y903VS Brave (Standard Test Type) and GNX-Y903VW Brave (Commander Test Type). Second, I checked and nobody asked for this page to be expanded. Lastly, me and Brnox01 has been long time editors here, if a senior editor make a change, there's a reason for it, at least give us that amount of faith. Thank you.

Taikage - the most insidious thing since root beer 01:21, October 1, 2010 (UTC)